In case you haven’t heard, we here at Motorcycle.com really like the KTM 1290 Super Duke R. I mean, we really like it. Its 1301cc V-Twin is beyond brutish, with a chassis more than capable of supporting that engine both in the canyons and the track. What’s more, its relatively upright ergos are plenty comfy for the daily commute to/from work, school, or a leisurely weekend cruise. So far, it has proved itself as king of the hill in the stacked Super Streetfighter category, as it beat out the BMW S1000R, Ducati Monster 1200S, Kawasaki Z1000 ABS and MV Agusta Brutale in part one of our Streetfighter Shootout. It backed its victory with another win, this time topping the S1000R (again) and nudging the Aprilia Tuono V4R APRC ABS off the top of the Streetfighter hill in part two of our Streetfighter Shootout. The bike’s so good, we named it our 2014 Motorcycle of the year.

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However, since our nominations, yet another contender to the Super Streetfighter throne has emerged. Better still, this one comes from the American heartland. East Troy, Wisconsin, to be exact. The EBR 1190SX embodies everything we love about this class of motorcycle: a big, powerful engine, agile chassis, minimal bodywork and ergos that won’t break your back like a full-fledged sportbike (we’re old, deal with it). At $16,995, the EBR is only four dollars cheaper than the almighty KTM, and even though it’s a first effort from Erik Buell Racing, we felt it to be a worthy challenger to the Super Duke R. So, we pit the two against each other, mano-a-mano.

Erik Buell Racing might be a little late to the Streetfighter party (a category Buell arguably created), but the EBR 1190SX is a worthy competitor to the mighty KTM.

Erik Buell Racing might be a little late to the Streetfighter party (a category Buell arguably created), but the EBR 1190SX is a worthy competitor to the mighty KTM.

If you’re curious about all the specs and details about both bikes, click the links above. For this test, we’ll focus on how each bike performs against each other. Joining yours truly in this contest is our very own John Burns. This mashup of the youngest and, well, shall we say, most mature of the MO staff should give a unique insight about how the two stack up. Ultimately, however, both Burnsie and I came to the same conclusion.

Powerrrrr!

We start in the area that matters most: the engine. The EBR, and its 1190cc, 72-degree V-Twin might have started life as a Rotax mill years ago, but it bears repeating that the engine in the 1190SX is all EBR now. Buell bought the rights to the engine from Rotax, massaged away the Austria, rubbed in some Wisconsin, and came up with a unit that, in our tester, pumped out 156.0 peak horsepower (to the wheel) at 10,700 rpm and 83 lb.-ft. of torque on the MotoGP Werks dyno. You might be surprised to see that the EBR, despite suffering a 111cc displacement deficit, actually makes 3.5 more horsepower than the KTM and its 75-degree, 1301cc V-Twin’s 152.5.

The spec chart jockeys might be quick to claim a victory in the EBR’s favor, considering it technically makes more horsepower despite a smaller engine. However, look at the rest of the graph. The KTM’s displacement advantage properly outguns the EBR in all the areas that count. For instance, the Duke makes 75 lb.-ft. of torque at just over 3000 rpm. The EBR doesn’t get there until 3000 revs later.

The spec chart jockeys might be quick to claim a victory in the EBR’s favor, considering it technically makes more horsepower despite a smaller engine. However, look at the rest of the graph. The KTM’s displacement advantage properly outguns the EBR in all the areas that count. For instance, the Duke makes 75 lb.-ft. of torque at just over 3000 rpm. The EBR doesn’t get there until 3000 revs later.

Look closer and you’ll see the EBR’s power advantage isn’t much of one at all, and only appears at the very top of the rev range. Everywhere below that point and the Super Duke properly trounces the SX, which shouldn’t come as a surprise considering its bigger engine. Where those extra cc’s are really felt is in the thrust department, and this is where the KTM shines. Delivering an absurd 94.1 lb.-ft. of torque at its max, the EBR’s 83.0 lb.-ft. doesn’t even come close. Because of this, “The KTM’s easier to ride because it’s already making over 90 ft-lb of torque at just 6600 rpm,” says Burns. “The EBR’s smaller engine never makes that much (though 83 ft-lb is still a sh**load).”

While the numbers tell an important story, getting them out on the road reveals the KTM’s true advantage: refinement. Where the EBR would occasionally hesitate at slow-speed, on/off throttle movements, like one would typically experience in normal street riding, the Super Duke R was the embodiment of smooth. Every degree of wrist movement is met with an appropriate amount of power application.

The 1190cc V-Twin powering the EBR is an impressive engine considering the company’s infancy. Fuel injection could use some refinement, but EBR is said to have EFI software updates coming in 2015. Note also the adjustable rear brake lever.

The 1190cc V-Twin powering the EBR is an impressive engine considering the company’s infancy. Fuel injection could use some refinement, but EBR is said to have EFI software updates coming in 2015. Note also the adjustable rear brake lever.

In a word, it’s simply beautiful. Isn’t it funny how we’re now comparing bikes with throttle cables (EBR) to the standards set by computerized throttles (KTM)? Seems like not too long ago it was the other way around. JB says, “Around town, the EBR is a little surgey at low rpm, but not a problem above 3000 rpm or so. It’s a big high-performance Twin, you can’t lug a Panigale around town either can you?”

But of course, let’s not forget about the power, because both bikes have it in spades. Get greedy with your right hand on either bike and your head is sure to snap back. The 1190SX roars with an intensely guttural intake snarl as it inhales air, while the the 1290’s booming exhaust note lets the world know it means business. By any measure the EBR accelerates hard, unless it’s being compared to the sheer thrust of the KTM. “Sure [the EBR] is down on torque next to the Super Duke. So is every other bike on the planet,” Burns says. “The EBR still launches you out of corners like few other motorcycles.”

For lack of a better word, the 1301cc LC8 V-Twin in the KTM is simply jaw dropping. Brutal torque and acceleration is met with refined fuel mapping to create an engine that ranks up there amongst the best for the entire MO staff.

For lack of a better word, the 1301cc LC8 V-Twin in the KTM is simply jaw dropping. Brutal torque and acceleration is met with refined fuel mapping to create an engine that ranks up there amongst the best for the entire MO staff.

Both bikes come equipped with slipper clutches, and they work well when coming hot into a corner. Rowing through the six cogs is generally slick on both, but the EBR feels a bit notchy in the first two gears. Both bikes also feature traction control, the 1190 with 21 different settings (including off), though we never needed it thanks to the fresh Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa tires, the same ones fitted to the Duke. The KTM’s TC, meanwhile, only has three settings (four including off), which are tied into the Duke’s three power modes (Sport, Street, Rain). We kept it in Sport (read: fun mode) and because the rear Pirelli on our bike was shagged from a previous trip to Chuckwalla, Burns noticed more than a few occasions where the computers saved his bacon when he got greedy with the throttle: “Just mash the gas and let the tire and the pavement negotiate through the computer. What could go wrong?”

Backroad Bombers

If the KTM wins the engine battle, the EBR fights back in the handling department. With a 22.4-degree rake, 3.8 inches of trail and 55.5-inch wheelbase, when you compare it to the KTM’s 24.9-degree rake, 4.2-inch trail and 58.3-inch wheelbase, the Austrian machine almost feels truckish in comparison. The KTM also tipped our scales at 468.2 lbs. with a full tank of gas, almost 20 lbs. more than the EBR (448.6 lbs.). Combine these factors, and it’s no surprise the 1190SX flicks from side to side with the greatest of ease. “With stiffer suspension, shorter trail and less weight, you can really dive into corners deeper on the Buell, and the stiffer springs give it a shade more front-end feel also,” says Burns.

The EBR comes alive when the roads start to bend. It’s here where a competent EBR rider can make time on a less-skilled KTM rider, as the 1190’s chassis is supremely agile.

The EBR comes alive when the roads start to bend. It’s here where a competent EBR rider can make time on a less-skilled KTM rider, as the 1190’s chassis is supremely agile.

Sure the Duke might appear a tad lazier than the EBR in the twisty stuff, but judged by any other measure the KTM is anything but. Wide bars give it good leverage to toss into turns, and when all else fails, add in the massive torque advantage it has and it can afford to give up a little on corner entrance. Says JB, on corner exit, “the Duke uses its torque to re-open the gap at the exits; it’s really like Jorge Lorenzo style vs. Nick Hayden transported to the street, high cornering speed vs. slow in and fast out. On the street, of course, the latter is probably more conducive to a long and happy life.”

Another Buell trait is his innovative thinking. The 1190SX continues the trademark fuel-in-frame technology along with the massive 386mm perimeter front brake and 8-piston caliper. A steel-braided brake line helps provide a positive feel at the adjustable lever, and while braking power and feel is no doubt strong and impressive, the M50 calipers and 320mm discs adorning the KTM are simply astounding, combining more power than the EBR’s brake with superior feel. It’s almost unfair, really, but it gives the Super Duke R a clear advantage in the stopping category.

While the EBR might have an advantage over the KTM in the twisty bits, the Super Duke certainly doesn’t trail very far behind. And if it does, simply twist your wrist and that gap disappears.

While the EBR might have an advantage over the KTM in the twisty bits, the Super Duke certainly doesn’t trail very far behind. And if it does, simply twist your wrist and that gap disappears.

Street Manners

Both the 1190SX and 1290 Super Duke R are more than capable of tearing apart your local canyon road. However, both models are street bikes first and foremost, and therefore need to be judged on their all-around usefulness.

From an ergonomic standpoint, the SX is literally the 1190RX fully faired sportbike sans bodywork and with the addition of a handlebar. Yes, the bar puts less of a lean on the upper body, but footpegs remain untouched, which means your feet are noticeably higher and further rearset than on the KTM. A 32.5-inch seat height is only marginally shorter than the KTM’s (32.9 inches), so that’s basically a wash, but the overall package is considerably more compact, as if your head is directly over the front tire.

The 1190SX only makes minor concessions to its fully-faired 1190RX superbike sibling, in the way of raised handlebars. That said, between the two, we’ll take the SX if we’re doing mostly street riding.

The 1190SX only makes minor concessions to its fully-faired 1190RX superbike sibling, in the way of raised handlebars. That said, between the two, we’ll take the SX if we’re doing mostly street riding.

Live with the EBR, and you notice the heat emanating from the side-mounted radiators. While the minimal cowling does its best to move the hot air the puller fans are blowing away from the rider, in reality it ends up blasting the rider’s legs. It’s actually pleasing on cooler days, but on hot ones it’s downright brutal.

Then there’s the noise. The EBR makes a mixture of pleasing and, well, not so pleasing sounds. Those aforementioned fans are in the latter category. They’re loud, and unless the bike is completely keyed off, they’re blowing seemingly all the time. However, they’re offset by the unique high-pitch squeal of the chain idler on decel, or as Burns calls it, the “little Stuka dive-bomber whine.” It’s cool, unique and different. We like it.

While it doesn’t look it at first glance, with some appropriate luggage, the 1290 Super Duke R could be a viable sport touring rig. Emphasis on sport.

While it doesn’t look it at first glance, with some appropriate luggage, the 1290 Super Duke R could be a viable sport touring rig. Emphasis on sport.

Steering sweep is shallow on the 1190SX, but really isn’t noticed much unless you make numerous U-turns like we do for photo shoots. Otherwise, it gets mileage in the mid to high 30s in normal use. Not great, but acceptable. Meanwhile, the KTM returned 40 mpg.

The KTM’s ergos? I’ll let John explain. “The Super Duke feels like settling back into Tom Roderick’s easy chair after you’ve been working at your stand-up desk for a few hours. Ahhhh …” The pegs are low and forward, seating position is comfortable, and yet it’s still ready to tear up any path in front of it.

If you have roads like this in your backyard, few bikes out there will be able to carve them like the EBR.

If you have roads like this in your backyard, few bikes out there will be able to carve them like the EBR.

John continues, “I like all the EBR’s mechanical noises and goings-on; it feels more like a race bike where not much effort has been diverted to creature comforts or aesthetics, probably because it hasn’t been. The Duke in comparison actually feels a bit sanitized. You can look at the EBR’s `rawness’ as a demerit, but I kind of like that part of its personality. If I had to ride one three hours to Chuckwalla, I’d rather ride the KTM (and I did once, it wasn’t bad), but if the drone to get to the fun is an hour or less, the EBR is not so bad. It does buzz more through the handlebars at 5000 rpm and 80 mph. The KTM has a better seat and better suspension for casual, sport-touring use.”

Still King of the Hill

We knew it would take a mighty effort to push the KTM off the top of the hill, and this test simply reiterated how impressive the Super Duke R is, as it won all but two of the categories on our MO scorecard. However, for a first effort the EBR is no joke. It handles with the best of them, and a capable rider will thoroughly enjoy getting the most out of that chassis.

If there’s only room for one motorcycle in your garage, then the answer is simple: KTM 1290 Super Duke R.

If there’s only room for one motorcycle in your garage, then the answer is simple: KTM 1290 Super Duke R.

Though the KTM is our favorite, in the end, it comes down to what’s already in your garage. Here’s JB: “It sort of comes back to, is this going to be an only bike or one of a few? If you’re only having one, it would have to be the KTM because of its ride-by-wire refinement, greater comfort (heated grips!), ease of use and in general broader performance envelope. But if you already have a general-purpose bike to ride most of the time, and wanted something a little more bombastic and unique to ‘act out’ upon now and then, maybe do a track day or two, this EBR is a great and deserving descendant of the outrageous, thumb-in-the-eyeball-of-authority Erik Buell legacy. Two middle fingers up.”

Brutish V-Twin Streetfighter Comparo

Category EBR1190SX KTM 1290
Super Duke R
MSRP 100% 100%
Weight 100% 95.8%
lb/hp 100% 93.6%
lb/lb-ft 92.6% 100%
Engine 95.0% 97.5%
Transmission/Clutch 87.5% 93.8%
Handling 97.5% 96.3%
Brakes 90.0% 96.3%
Suspension 91.3% 96.3%
Technologies 87.5% 96.3%
Instruments 90.0% 90.0%
Ergonomics/Comfort 87.5% 95.0%
Quality, Fit & Finish 82.5% 92.5%
Cool Factor 93.8% 92.5%
Grin Factor 92.5% 95.0%
Overall Score 92.4% 95.4%

 

EBR 1190SX KTM 1290 Super Duke R
MSRP $16,995.00 $16,999.00
Engine Capacity 1190cc 1301cc
Engine Type Liquid-cooled 8-valve, 72º V-Twin, Liquid-cooled, 8 valve, 75º V-Twin
Bore x Stroke 106mm x 67.5mm 108mm x 71mm
Compression Ratio 13.4:1 13.2:1
Horsepower 156.0 @ 10,700 rpm 152.5 @ 9000 rpm
Torque 83.0 lb.-ft @ 8100 rpm 94.1 lb.-ft @ 8200 rpm
Fuel System Electronic fuel injection Electronic fuel injection
Transmission 6-speed 6-speed
Final Drive Chain Chain
Front Suspension Fully-adjustable Showa inverted Big Piston Fork WP Suspension 48mm inverted fork with adjustable compression and rebound damping
Rear Suspension Fully-adjustable Showa monoshock WP Suspension monoshock, fully adjustable
Front Brakes Single 386mm perimeter rotor, 8-piston inside-out caliper Dual 320mm rotors with Brembo M50 monoblock 4-piston calipers and ABS
Rear Brakes Single 220mm rotor with 2-piston caliper Single 240mm rear rotor with 2-piston caliper, ABS
Front Tire 120/70-17 120/70-17
Rear Tire 190/55-17 190/55-17
Seat Height 32.5 in. 32.9 in.
Wheelbase 55.5 in. 58.3 in.
Rake/Trail 22.4 º/3.8 in 24.9º/4.21 in
Curb Weight 448.6 lbs 468.2 lbs
Fuel Capacity 4.5 gals. 4.7 gals.

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  • DickRuble

    Nice review, predictable outcome..Oh and..if only KTM made a full fairing version of the SuperD it would be perfect..

    • Andrew

      That looks pretty slick. With the surge of badass street fighters hitting the market, I’m hearing more riders talking about touring on them. A 500 mile trip on this bad boy looks doable, if you can keep your license that long!

  • Old MOron

    I’m enjoying MO’s coverage of the AIMExpo, including the articles on helmets and accessories. But moto comparos are what we all live for. Well done, MO.

  • serial_num21259

    This must be a sign as I have been looking at which streetfighter I would want after im ready for a faster bike. And while I love Buell (expecially XB12ss), KTM takes the cake.

  • AlexKnolly

    I went to a dealer a little while ago completely expecting to buy an 1190SX after a test ride.

    I’ve rode the RX and the track and loved it, and I really believe in what EBR is doing and wanted to put my money where my mouth is. My main problem is something you mentioned, but only briefly, which is that at low RPMs, the SX is just a chore. It has a race bike engine and it shows. At the low RPMs it chugs and sputters, and I had to play with the clutch to get it going under 30 mph without feeling like it was jumping along. It is a fantastic engine for the track, but for an every day streetbike/commuter/occasional track toy (which is what I was looking for) it just seemed like a bad choice for the first two things.

    The Super Duke R is still on my list of motorcycles that I’m interested in, it’s just hard to find a demo model. After trying out a few things my eyes are currently set on the Brutale 800.

    Anyways, fantastic article. It really makes me want to try out the KTM before making the final call on my next bike.

    • Classax

      What the?? I’ll admit the RX hates pariking lot speeds but, it is by far the best superbike I have ever ridden in stop and go traffic, even with the heavier than most clutch. It doesn’t cook the rider and for a big bore V2 it is quite tame down to a walking pace in the right gear. No V2 engine likes to be lugged. I commute daily and trackday on one. Keep the revs above 2.5k and its money! I would argue the RX/SX is more streetable than the Tuono which I also own. It is certainly easier to ride.
      I would argue it not a good bike for a first effort, its a good bike on their first effort. Hats off to the KTM on Bike of Year. Hats off to EBR for giving it a good run for the money.

      • AlexKnolly

        Hmm, It’s definitely interesting to hear that. I actually didn’t mind the clutch at all since it was the new adjusted clutch that made it much lighter compared to the RX I tried out.

        Since you mentioned it being fine above 2.5K, the one I rode struggled even around 3.5-4K. By struggling, I mean it was chugging along (to make a crappy onomatopoeia the engine would sound like “ju-CHUG-ju-CHUG-ju-CHUG”), and it made a really jerky and uncomfortable ride. It makes me wonder if there was something going on with that particular demo bike I tried if your experience has been so much different.

        • Classax

          The owners manual states to let it warm up for 60 seconds, I have found the bike has a bit of surging before it is really warm down low, but once warm it will all but idle cleanly in any gear. It is geared VERY tall and I find myself needing first more than I do on other bikes for parking lot type speeds. I notice a lot of test riders have little idea of how to really ride of big bore Vtwin and try ride it like an I4 with mixed results.
          Also much like a Panigale or a RSV4 the 1190 motor is very tight out of the crate and breaks in after about 1k miles. None of the Demo bikes I rode had more than 500 miles on them and the difference between them and mine was drastic.

          • AlexKnolly

            Very interesting to hear. It definitely had plenty of time to warm up (I was stuck in and out of traffic for a solid half hour) but I very much doubt it had more than a few hundred miles. I’ve rode both big and small Panigales and found both of them to be infinitely smoother at low speeds than the EBR.

            It’s really a shame if it was a lack of break-in that made it perform that way since like I said, I was fully expecting to make a deposit on the bike that day until I tried it out.

            In the end I wound up falling in love with a Brutale 800, so it all worked out, but I really badly want EBR to succeed, so I hope no one else has been getting possibly false impression from their rides like I did.

          • Jeff

            Interesting commentary – my RX has about 350 miles. It can be a bit bearish below 3k, but it is super easy to remedy around town with basic clutch actuation. Doesn’t bother me one bit, but my first bike was a zingy 2 stroke dirt bike that i rode on technical trails – it had zero torque so getting up a hill was a crash course in proper clutch usage.

  • DavidyArica Freire

    I don’t know this review seems a little biased. I mean look at the score sheet, so many demerits on things like fit and finish, what actually was so bad to dictate so many points. And the handling department the KTM only shows a 1 point disadvantage. It just seems like you guys made your mind before really giving it a fair shot. My 2cents.

    • Send Margaritas

      Even if that was true, the KTM is still a winner.

      • DavidyArica Freire

        Sure in this review, would the same outcome be true in an unbiased head to head battle? Not sure.
        Sure both bikes differ but my problem lies in the way the score sheet is done. Doesn’t seem fair at all.

        • Tinwoods

          What is fair and true is that EBR no longer exists and KTM does.

          • TroySiahaan

            Actually, EBR is back and producing motorcycles again.

  • roma258

    Poor EBR, the 1190SX would be the hot new thing had the KTM not released the Super Duke around the same time.

    • DickRuble

      Not really.. .the Duke was released quite a bit earlier.. 6-12 months earlier. The SX is an afterthought by EBR to capitalize on an existing platform (RX). The problem is that the platform is not suitable for street applications. EBR most likely knew this but decided to proceed thinking that there will be some mono-neuron riders out there that may opt for the SX just by pure patriotism, being clueless or just seeking attention. And there is very little effort put into the SX. Remove fairing, change bars, et voila. They’ll sell a couple of hundred grand total.. but that’s ok.. they knew it all along. There are other bikes in the naked category that the SX would still lose against (Ducati, BMW, Aprilia)

      • roma258

        It’s funny, for year we’ve been hearing pleas for manufacturers to give us a naked superbike with upright handlebars “don’t neuter the motor!” they said, “just strip the plastics, throw on a bar and get out of the way” everyone demanded. Now when EBR does just that, it’s not suitable for street application :) Whatever, it’s still a pretty damn impressive achievement from a small, boutique brand like EBR. And if KTM wasn’t such a stunningly executed bike, I still maintain that EBR would have a huge hit. That said, it’s still a worthwhile effort and I hope they stick around long enough to refine and perfect on it for the next model.

        • DickRuble

          Well, it was clear then and confirmed now that those who wanted a naked race bike for the street were just a minority of idiots with access to a computer. Any other questions?

          • roma258

            Whatever you say boss. “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”

          • DickRuble

            If that’s the whole problem with the world, I am reassured.

          • Classax

            My issue is part of the problem is the miss and disinformation that is out there on these bikes.

            They said the 1199 Panigale was “brutal” in the amount of heat transmitted to the rider. Now they say the SX is brutal because hot air spills out AROUND the riders legs? I’ve ridden both and they aren’t on the same planet in terms of heat to the rider. So which is it, the SX is as hot as the Panigale, the writers have limited vocabulary, they feel they must always write in extremes, or their human temp gages top out at “brutal”. It creates misinformation.

            Buell’s approach has always been give the rider a great chassis with a torquey motor which makes it easier and more practical to ride. They got slammed for decades for being down on power. The KTM takes this idea to the extreme and then gets the win? WTH? Yet they routinely crown the S1kRR the superbike champ? Inconsistent.

            They talk about fit and finish, they must mean the RX with exposed wires because the SX is very clean in execution. The feel of the plastics is a little thin but that’s the price of light weight. Again more misinformation

            He said the KTM has more of the bike vissble from the cockpit, where as the SX kind of has you floating out in space, but the KTM makes him feel most like he’s flying. Which is it? Inconsistent

            They talked about not noticing the SX TC, EXACTLY!!!! The light blinks for a few seconds to let you know “hey I saved you back there” but other than that, you get the same feel from the bike all the time anywhere below lvl 15. The KTM is a whole different animal depending on the mode and TC settings. Turn it off and its a serious handful. They imply here the SX TC may not work or is of little value. Misinformation.

            A major design parameter of the EBR engine is that it gets smoother with more REVs which is the opposite of other L and narrow v twins. The KTM gets more VIBEY the harder you push not less. The implication is the SX is vibey at highways speeds, but so is the KTM and when the pace picks up only one bike gets better not worse. Misinformation.

            5K in 6th gets me 85mph and 41mph, drop down to the legal limit and you’re almost lugging it with 55mpg showing on the clock. Despite the smaller tank, a 200 mile tank on the hwy has been done. Or you could up the pace and cruise a 5.5k at 90mph, the start of the engines happy place, and be very smooth with no vibes in the pegs or bars for hours on end.

            They claim the KTMs brakes are better but again its a matter of style. The KTM gives a really strong initial bite. The ZTL2 with stock pads are very linear in feel, so one gives you nearly all it has up front and the other gives you what you ask for with a direct correlation between lever effort and braking force. They both stop great but the ZTL, I’m finding easier to trail in and off hard into corners now that I’ve figured out how to use them. Its the Vtwin vs I4 approach to rinding hard, you wouldn’t tell a rider an I4 is better than a V2 or vice versa, they take a different approach to get the most out of. Same with the ZTL vs Regular brake set up.

            To my mind the KTM is not mechanically more refined, it gets away with a few flaws because it has so many electronic nannies. Of course mine was only a 75 mile demo ride so I could be very wrong.

            But the above is the kind of stuff I expect a pro to write about, I don’t need you to devote whole paragraph to the dyno chart unless it actually impacts the ride. But as I said I can’t complain if its being pitted against their bike of the year.

          • DickRuble

            What I take from your posting is that one better go and ride both before making a decision. Which is what anyone looking to spend 17k on a motorcycle and with two grams of brain would hopefully do. Without having even seen one in real life, and using only info from published reviews, I am tempted to believe the KTM would suit me better. Would I test drive the SX? Maybe.

  • Craig Hoffman

    Which one can Kevin crank the longest wheelie on? That is all I need to know 😉

  • Knee Draggin

    Kudos to you guys on your comparison tests. Letting us know that while one bike may be preferable they both have their attributes. The KTM lands at the top but no real surprise. I just wish the dealers were a little more prevalent. But the same seems to go for a lot of the bikes I like. While I don’t have anything against the KTM I would probably still go with the Aprilia Tuono. Having ridden both the Aprilia still seemed to leave me grinning inside my helmet more than the KTM. But then again it would be nice to spend more time on both bikes. Unfortunately unless I could own both that probably won’t be possible. Also the lack of dealers also is a problem for the Aprilia. At least where I live.

  • TheMarvelous1310

    The EBR is now 12,995. I want a rematch!

  • mog

    EBR 1190SX 2016 with more dealerships coming on line, lighter than the KTM, the price at $12,995 and an upgraded fueling system…. might be a wise idea for KTM to stay off the track day demos against the EBR. Get your test riders out there again on a track day and see if the KTM ergos keep you from getting your socks blown off by the EBR flying by on the inside of turn 1.