2014 Super-Middleweight Sportbike Shootout + Video

Ducati 899 Panigale vs. MV Agusta F3 800 vs. Suzuki GSX-R750

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When racing organizations around the world ushered the end of the 750cc superbike era circa 2003 by allowing 1000cc four-cylinders to compete, it wasn’t long before almost every OEM dropped 750cc sportbikes from their lineups, focusing instead on developing new 1000cc beasts to comply with the revised racing rules.

Everyone except Suzuki. With its GSX-R750, Suzuki defined the modern sportbike in 1985, practically creating the superbike class along the way. With such a rich history and pedigree, Suzuki wisely stood firm in keeping the venerable godfather of sportbikes alive, surrounding it with 600cc and 1000cc siblings to comply with racing regulations.

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The brilliance of that decision has now been realized, as Italy has decided to play in between the 600cc and 1000cc bookmarks. Both Ducati’s 899 Panigale and MV Agusta’s F3 800 throw racing regulations to the wind in favor of finding that balance between handling and power. We’ve long said that the GSX-R750 is the perfect 600, now it seems others are paying attention.

Super-Middleweights Beauty Group

The Ducati 899 Panigale, MV Agusta F3 800, and Suzuki GSX-R750 would have been called Superbikes a decade ago. Now, “middleweights.”

With that, we’ve put together the Ducati 899 Panigale, MV Agusta F3 800, and Suzuki GSX-R750 for what we’re calling the 2014 Super-Middleweight Sportbike Shootout — a test the entire MO staff has been abnormally excited to bring together. Go to Tom’s spec chart breakdown review for all the details. Here, we’re going to focus on riding impressions. In usual MO style, we rode all the bikes on the street and the racetrack in search of the best super-middleweight of them all.

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For our racetrack testing, we rode with Mickey Grana and the folks at SoCal Trackdays at Chuckwalla Valley Raceway. Incorporating a “no-sessions” format, SoCal Trackdays lets riders come on and off the track as much or as little as they want — meaning there’s no excuse for not getting enough track time. Considering the two Italians come equipped with Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa tires, Pirelli sent a pair of the excellent street/trackday tire for the Suzuki so we had a level playing field.

Taming Chuckwalla

Suzuki

“Old hat, comfortable shoe, hand in a velvet glove, grandpa’s old recliner… Whatever your analogy, the GSX-R750 just feels right,” says resident Ural fanboy Tom Roderick. “After a lap or so of generating tire heat you’re ready to go fast. Simple as that.”

Indeed, it is mighty easy to go fast on the Gixxer without much need to acclimate to the controls. Without any of the electronic doo-dads of the others, save for differing power modes, getting up to speed meant simply twisting the throttle. When you do, you’re met with a broad spread of usable power, all the way until its 14K rpm redline. What this means at Chuckwalla is the ability hold a gear longer, reducing the amount of shifts needed.

2014 Suzuki GSX-R750 Cornering

For a while, the answer to “What’s the best 600cc sportbike” has been “GSX-R750.” Its balance of power and handling has long been admired.

Power delivery is smooth and predictable with no surprises. “A very important feature,” Tom notes, “because this bike also lacks traction control, and when the rear wheel spun up a few times at full lean it was controllable and fun, but a reminder that you’re riding without that TC safety net.” And despite its smallest displacement of the trio, none of our testers found it lacking in relation to the others. So impressed with the usability of the Suzuki’s engine, it earned highest marks on the trusty MO scorecard, with Tom and E-i-C Kevin Duke rating it their favorite of the three.

Read our 2011 Suzuki GSX-R750 Review

Gripes are few, but its handling characteristics are a step behind the two Italians. Transitions can be sluggish on the Suzuki (relatively speaking, of course), though once leaned over, the fully-adjustable suspension provides ample confidence and feedback from the road. The Showa BPF fork (of which the Ducati is similarly equipped) is easy to tweak and responds well to adjustments.

“Next to the narrow Italians,” says Duke, “the Gixxer’s tank feels really wide between the knees, although it’s more of an observation than an impediment.” By no means is the 750 like straddling a Boss Hoss, but it does combine a wider seat/tank junction with narrow bars. As we’ve noted with the GSX-R line in the past, it feels like you’re sitting “in” the Suzuki rather than “on” it like the others. Adjustable pegs are also a welcome feature for track use, as the high setting keeps toes comfortably away from the hard stuff, while allowing additional legroom when set for the street.

Ducati 899 Panigale vs. MV Agusta F3 800 vs. Suzuki GSX-R750 dyno

On the Gene Thomason Racing Superflow dyno, which supposedly gives more “real world” readings than a Dynojet, the GSX-R750 made 120.3 hp and 53.0 ft.-lbs. of torque. The 898cc Ducati Superquadro V-Twin pumps out 121.1 hp and 61.6 ft.-lbs. of torque. MV Agusta makes the most power, with the 798cc Inline-Triple producing 122.7 hp and 54.5 ft.-lbs. Note the large flat spot in the middle of the Ducati’s torque graph.

An old school gauge cluster might seem dated now, but as Duke notes, “[the analog tachometer] is actually more effective at delivering info than the LCD displays of its Italian rivals. Bonus points for a large and easy-to-read gear-position indicator.”

After some break-in miles, the Suzuki’s monobloc Brembos (of which all three bikes have in common) worked well. Roderick noted he, “really liked the Suzuki’s Brembos.” “They’re not as fierce as the initial bite on the MV but don’t require as much lever pressure as the Panigale.”

Suzuki GSX-R-750 and MV Agusta F3 800 Action

In terms of power, the Suzuki and MV Agusta are very well matched.

The only one here requiring manual shifts both up and down, Duke states the obvious when he notes, “It would benefit on the track greatly by the addition of a quickshifter.” Interestingly, the ‘Zook comes with a slipper clutch — something the Duc is missing from its spec sheet. It works well, earning praise from all three testers.

MV Agusta

Moving to the MV Agusta, our impression is one of restrained optimism. We’ve bashed MV about its flawed fuel delivery in the past, but with the F3 800, progress has been made by leaps and bounds.

“Let’s give MV props for delivering ride-by-wire fuel-injection tuning that isn’t an impediment,” Duke says. “Throttle response is quick but not overly aggressive, and its throttle pickup feels mostly natural.”

The two biggest assets of the F3 800 are its lively 798cc inline-Triple and incredible handling prowess – both exhibiting Usain Bolt-like levels of quickness. Quite possibly our favorite engine configuration, the Triple delivers a healthy dose of midrange while sounding brilliant at the same time.

2014 MV Agusta F3 800 Cornering

There’s lots to like about the MV Agusta F3 800. Sharp handling and an exciting engine are its two most positive qualities.

A glance at the dyno chart shows it and the Suzuki are virtually dead even, but short gearing and a light flywheel effect makes the F3 800 feel much more anxious. “I can’t recall another engine that picks up and drops revs so immediately to its throttle [as the MV],” Duke notes.

“The F3 transitions like nobody’s business,” says an exuberant Roderick. The shortest wheelbase in this test (54.3 inches, compared to 54.7 inches and 56.1 inches for the Suzuki and Ducati, respectively) certainly contributes to this quick-steering nature, but we believe the F3’s counter-rotating crankshaft is more than just PR fluff – it actually works.

Read our 2014 MV Agusta F3 800 Review

However, the MV is not perfect. “Its horizontal bar-graph tach is almost useless while riding at speed,” Duke notes. The gear-position indicator is also the smallest here, sometimes displaying “5” when in fact sixth was chosen. Calibration of the EAS (quickshifter to you and me), isn’t quite as quick and seamless as the Ducati, with unnecessarily long ignition kill times between gears on track.

But the biggest gripe, still, is the EFI tuning. Kevin says, “As much as I’d like to laud MV for its improved throttle tuning, the F3, like the 800 Brutale, is frustratingly difficult to carry a long wheelie due to its not-quite-predictable nature.”

MV Agusta F3 800 Big Piston Fork

The only one not equipped with a Showa Big Piston Fork, the MV Agusta’s Marzocchi/Sachs suspension is equally capable. Monobloc Brembo calipers work well, but pads on our test bike were overly aggressive for our tastes.

Moving along, the Marzocchi and Sachs suspenders for the F3 800 respond well to adjustments. The MV exhibits confidence on its side and rewards the rider willing to push to their extremes to get the most out of the bike.

Confidence – and stamina – are what you’ll need, as the MV’s short wheelbase we love on corner entrance and transitions works against it in corner exit. Tom notes that “hard on the gas coming out of corners, the F3 800’s front wheel lifts followed by a back and forth shaking of the handlebars.” And as the only bike of the three without a steering damper, it’s on you to keep the bucking bronco under control.

Thankfully, the traction control safety net, while not as advanced as other systems on the market, means the majority of your focus can remain primarily on the front. Perhaps the F3 800’s neatest feature is its engine brake control, which allows the rider to tune the amount of engine compression braking whenever the throttle is released.

Super-Middlweight Shootout Track Action

“With MV’s adjustable engine braking set to Sport you can make its four-stroke Triple behave like a two-stroke,” raves Tom. The effects are instantly noticeable, too. In its least intrusive setting, you’ll have to rely almost entirely on the brakes to scrub speed, which we tended to like.

Ducati

The Ducati 899 Panigale is an anomaly. How is it possible a V-Twin motorcycle exhibits 600cc inline-Four-like traits? The answer is the highly oversquare 898cc Superquadro engine. As expected, it pumps out the most torque in this test, but look closely at the dyno graph and you’ll notice the huge torque dip between 4500 – 7000 rpm. “It makes little logical sense that big power isn’t available until 8000 rpm,” says Kevin, “especially when its rev limit occurs just 3200 rpm later.”

As a result, the Ducati needs numerous shifts to get the most from the narrow powerband. Keep it in its sweet spot, however, and the 899 Panigale is an absolute hoot. “Once I got my shifting points mapped out, lapping the Duc around Chuckwalla was a pleasure,” Tom notes, “made more so by its sublime quickshifter.”

Another surprise is its fairly roomy cockpit, with plenty of fore-aft room, along with a slightly comfy seat and narrow seat/tank junction. Add in relatively generous legroom, and you have something we’re not used to seeing from Ducati – comfort. “For such a hardcore sportbike, the Ducati’s riding position and seat are actually fairly accommodating,” says Kevin.

2014 Ducati 899 Panigale Action Left

A peaky engine and rock-solid handling are two main traits of the Ducati 899 Panigale. Keep it in its powerband, and it’s a rewarding experience.

The widest handlebars of the trio give the 899 Panigale tremendous leverage to flick the 437-lb. motorcycle, the heaviest here (compared to the Suzuki’s 425 lbs. and MV’s 427 lbs.) from side to side. Once banked over, all three testers favored the Ducati’s manners. Tom notes, “compared to the nervous MV, the Panigale’s sure-footedness is as reassuring to a rider navigating a technical chicane as gravity is to keeping people from drifting off the planet.” Credit some of this composure to the Ducati’s long wheelbase.

Read our 2014 Ducati 899 Panigale Review

From an electronics standpoint, the Ducati again impresses. Featuring traction control, engine brake control, and ABS, there’s no shortage of technology to help the rider lap around a track faster or safer. “The Duc takes top honors in traction control,” notes Duke, “interfering almost imperceptibly when set to DTC 2. And yet it feels very trustworthy.”

Though it lacks the super trick TFT display of its 1199 big brother, the baby Panigale again scores points for having an easy gauge cluster to read at a glance. Bright shift lights are hard to miss even at track speeds, and all the pertinent information like speed, rpm, DTC, EBC, and ABS are prominently displayed on the home screen.

2014 Ducati 899 Panigale Instrument Panel

The Ducati’s modern instrument panel includes information that’s easy to read at a glance. The shift lights atop the tach (not visible here) are anything but ambiguous.

Of course, the Ducati has flaws. Adjusting or otherwise manipulating the different electronic functions takes some getting used to (which owners of the bike will master very quickly), but as Roderick notes, “exiting the screen is monotonous. When I’m ready to exit the screen I’m ready to exit, don’t make me push the exit button three times.”

Also, while the Engine Brake Control is useful in theory, its application is nothing like that seen on the MV Agusta. Tom noticed “Ducati’s [EBC] system doesn’t seem to do a lot no matter what setting it’s in.”

Tom’s whining isn’t over. “Why, why, why does reducing the intrusion of both TC and ABS correspond with smaller integers, #1 being the least intrusive, while engine braking is the inverse, the least amount of engine braking corresponding to higher integers, #3 being the least amount of engine braking. WTF Ducati?”

2014 Ducati 899 Panigale Cornering

The 899 encourages its rider to explore their limits with the assurance it’ll stay planted.

With the track portion of our ride over, all three testers unanimously chose the Ducati 899 Panigale as their favorite. It took some testers longer than others to come to this conclusion, but in the end, we kept gravitating towards the Duc’s supreme stability and ferocious engine. However, deciding a winner on the street would prove to be a much harder decision.

Street Pretenses

Get it off the track, and the Ducati’s major flaw is obvious. “[On the street] The Duc’s lack of midrange became inexcusable,” says Roderick. “When the 150cc smaller GSX-R750 left the 899 Panigale for dead during top gear roll-ons, I was embarrassed for Ducati.”

2014 Suzuki GSX-R750 Action Street

With its plush seat, compliant suspension, and decent wind protection, the GSX-R750 is a great platform for street riding.

The winner of our top gear roll-on challenge was the MV Agusta, whose short gearing and healthy midrange gave it the nudge over the Suzuki, but not by much. However, when it comes time to sludge through miles on the freeway to get to our favorite canyon roads, all three have their faults.

Both the Ducati and Suzuki have well-padded seats and moderate legroom (when the Suzuki’s pegs are at their lowest setting), but the former requires a slightly long reach to the bars and emits rear-cylinder exhaust heat to the rider’s legs and bum similar to its 1199 sibling. The latter is buzzy at freeway cruising speeds, causing hands to go numb after a while. Meanwhile, the F3 800’s seat is the least padded by far. Great for the track, not so on the street. Also, the F3’s mirrors are practically useless, as no matter how far you tuck your arms, they still block a majority of the view behind and are often blurry.

2014 MV Agusta F3 800 Action Street

If you like manhandling a motorcycle that doesn’t like keeping its nose on the ground, look no further than the MV Agusta F3 800.

In the canyons, much of the same traits we noticed on the track transfer over. The Suzuki’s familiarity, broad powerband and stable handling means getting through the twisty stuff is done with no surprises. Its compliant suspension soaks up the road imperfections of our local SoCal streets and spits you out on the other side without any fuss. The point? The GSX-R750 is entirely capable, if not the most exciting. This practicality makes it Kevin’s choice as a street ride.

“It’s the best choice of this group if faced with a long day in the saddle,” he says. “It boasts the best wind protection, the comfiest seat and the most usable mirrors. Bonus points for its adjustable footpegs.

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The Ducati, meanwhile, offers great stability, but again, the peaky engine means revs have to be much higher than expected for an 898cc V-Twin. And we have no idea how the exhaust was given the go-ahead by the sound police, either. “I love a booming V-Twin exhaust sound,” Roderick says, “but the Duc is a little loud in stock form for my taste. There’s times I prefer stealth, and the Panigale just doesn’t allow you to go unnoticed.” Duke, on the other hand, enjoyed the noise, saying it might prevent yahoos from buying louder pipes from the aftermarket.

Loud exhaust aside, the Ducati offers generous legroom, fantastic throttle response, decent mirrors, strong brakes, an easy-to-read instrument panel, and most of all, drop-dead sexy looks. Which, really, is a lot of what matters on the street. Kevin even went so far as to say the Panigale (both 899 and 1199) have the “best looking taillight in motorcycledom.” For me, good looks combined with confidence-inspiring handling make it my personal pick for the street.

2014 Ducati 899 Panigale Action Street

Tall gearing and practically no midrange hurts the Ducati on midrange acceleration runs, but stable handling translates on and off the track.

The MV Agusta’s intoxicating Triple exhaust note, broad power, and extreme agility were just as fun to play with in the canyons as it was on track. Any opportunity to crack the throttle and hear those butterflies sing was welcome, and flicking the bike to and fro put a big grin on our faces. At the slower street pace, the knife edge handling we experienced on track wasn’t so bad, making it Tom’s personal favorite on the street.

“The MV’s short wheelbase, close gearing and snappy midrange power make the F3 800 a fun and exciting street bike,” he says. “When riding fast on the street and not going for lap times, the MV is my bike of choice.”

Super-Middleweight Sportbike Shootout Action Street

So, as you can see, our panel is undecided for an overall victor. For this test, the MO scorecard will have to decide our winner.

Results, Please!

If we’ve made anything clear so far it’s that this test was incredibly close. We wouldn’t mind having any of the three in our personal garages, but as is the case, an order has to be achieved. Here are our results, factoring both our street and track impressions, as well as objective categories like price and weight.

Third place: Suzuki GSX-R750

For $12,299, the godfather of the (now) super middleweight class represents an excellent value in the category – one that simply gets the job done. It even won three of the ten categories: Engine, Suspension, and Ergonomics – three major factors if you’re looking for one bike to do it all. It’s Duke’s pick if he were to go racing, calling it the “easy choice.”

“It’s easily the least expensive, has by far the greatest aftermarket support, and has ultimate potential to match or beat its pricier rivals around a racetrack, especially with the addition of a quickshifter and piggyback traction-control unit.”

2014 Suzuki GSX-R750 Action Right

‘Ol reliable, the GSX-R750 doesn’t do anything wrong and makes a fantastic platform considering its plentiful aftermarket support. But in stock form, the two Italians have its number.

But this test isn’t strictly about the track, and as we’ve stated before, the ‘Zook is competent, but not as exciting. Kevin again sums up the GSX-R750 thusly:

“It seems rather ordinary, but that makes it no less effective as a premium middish-sized sportbike. It can’t come close to the Italians in terms of style or electronic controls, but its ultimate capabilities are a very close match. For the money, it’s perhaps the best sportbike bargain on the market today.”

Second place: MV Agusta F3 800

The MV Agusta F3 800 is an animal. It’s hard-edged, fast, and in-your-face. It’s clear MV’s focus was on making a bike geared for the track, and in that sense the historic marque has achieved something special. In fact, if I had to pick one of these three specifically to set a fast lap time, the F3 800 would be it.

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However, in the overall scheme of track and street riding, it’s perhaps a bit too much if you want one bike to do it all. It didn’t win a single category on the MO scorecard, but finished a close second many times. MV has come a long way in improving the EFI tuning, and we applaud them for that, but now it’s just missing the finishing touches. As Tom notes, “Once MV applies these new R-b-W algorithms to the other bikes in its line-up, MV will have an arsenal of arguably the best performing, as well as best looking, faired and naked sportbikes on the planet.”

2014 MV Agusta F3 800 Street Cornering

The MV Agusta F3 800 put up a valiant fight in every category of our MO scorecard, but ultimately, it was a bit too track-focused.

At $15,798 the F3 800 is also the most expensive motorcycle in this test – but there’s always a price to pay for premium Italian motorcycles, especially one with gorgeous lines and sophisticated electronics.

Is it worth it? That’s up to you to decide, but here’s what head cheese Duke has to say, “MV Agustas have always been some of the loveliest sportbikes on the market. The F3 800 is no different in that regard, but its balance, speed and more finely tuned engine combine to make it intensely appealing.”

First place: Ducati 899 Panigale

Taking top honors in seven categories, the $14,995 ($15,295 in white, as tested) Ducati 899 Panigale emerges as our overall winner in this tightly contested battle for Super-Middleweight Sportbike supremacy. Confidence-inspiring stability, sophisticated technology, and a roaring engine make us truly feel exhilarated on the track. In fact, after spinning some laps on all three, cruiser editor, former racer, and man behind the lens, Evans Brasfield, tipped the 899 as the one that gave him the most confidence.

2014 Ducati 899 Panigale Profile

Despite its lack of power down low, we’re enamored by the Ducati 899 Panigale’s other attributes. If we had to pick one of these three to ride to a track, do a trackday, then ride home, this would be it.

Of course, the top-heavy powerband of the Superquadro engine can also be a chore during normal street riding. But it’s a price we’re willing to pay, thanks in part to its slick shifter. The numbers don’t lie, and overall all three testers scored the Ducati the highest. And to think, the 899 Panigale is only “17cc smaller than the once vaunted 916 but with 20 extra horsepower,” says Kevin.

In the end, Duke sums up our thoughts, noting, “The baby Panigale is so much more than a smaller-displacement 1199. Its power is riveting when on the boil, its electronics are well sorted, and its unique Italian styling guarantees eyeballs will be paying attention.”

Check out our photo gallery for even more pictures from this shootout.

Super-Middleweight Sportbike Shootout Scorecard

Category Ducati 899 Panigale MV Agusta F3 800 Suzuki GSX-R750
Engine 85.83% 88.33% 93.33%
Transmission/Clutch 96.67% 85.00% 85.00%
Handling 90.00% 88.33% 85.00%
Brakes 94.17% 87.50% 88.33%
Suspension 88.33% 88.33% 90.83%
Technologies 93.33% 91.67% 43.33%
Instruments 90.83% 73.33% 83.33%
Ergonomics/Comfort 85.83% 80.00% 90.83%
Appearance 95.83% 88.33% 75.83%
Cool Factor 93.33% 93.33% 66.67%
Grin Factor 90.83% 88.33% 75.00%
Overall Score 91.60% 87.76% 82.37%

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  • john burns

    Very cool. I did not expect the Ducati would win this one. I’ve always liked their smaller sportbikes best on the street: 748, 749, 848 etc. More revs = more fun most of the time.

    • TroySiahaan

      Thanks, Burns! Agreed!

  • Jeffrey Degracia

    So no best lap times from the track sessions? For bench racing and keyboard commanding, this is a must. Also, I really don’t get “top gear roll on tests.” When in real life does this happen? If I’m in a tall gear and want to go faster, I move my left foot about 2 inches as many times as I need (in less than one second) to get to the power range of the motor.

    Great job otherwise, thanks for the test. Please test the MV Rivale against the Dragster and Brutale 800 (might as well include a Streetfighter 848, Z1000, and FZ-09). I’ve already got the 1199 and these three MVs are on the shopping list.

    • http://motorcycle.com/ Tom Roderick

      A downshift on an 899cc V-Twin should not be required to quickly pass slower moving traffic. An a 600 it’s expected, but not on the Panigale. At the track you’re always spinning higher RPMs, and mid-range power is not as important, but on the highways and byways where you spend most of your time riding with the tach needle farther down the dial a strong mid-range is key to good street performance.

      • Jeffrey Degracia

        Fare point Tom. Perhaps with the new Superquadro design this is a new age of high-horsepower V-twins that don’t need to be ridden differently than inline-4 (or inline-3) sport bikes. Maybe it’s part of Ducati’s grand plan to lure buyers of traditional inline cylinder bikes to the brand?

      • bbtowns

        It would likely not be necessary to pass slower moving cages, but to pass a MV or GSXR, definitely.

  • bbtowns

    To see a Ducati win the clutch/transmission portion of the testing says how far they’ve come. My ST4s shifts like a John Deere.

  • DickRuble

    Puzzled that the Duck won, given the reviewer’s comments about the narrow power band. What I get from the review is that these bikes are a definite no for street use.

  • Ser Samsquamsh

    Thanks for the acoustic “tunnel test”. Earlier in the video when all three machines blast by together- wow! What a sound they make together.

    • TroySiahaan

      Yeah, the very different exhaust notes was definitely a welcome side benefit to this test.

  • Sentinel

    You guys actually put the GSX-R750 in “last” place here? Really? I”d still take the GSX-R750 over either one of those other bikes any day by a long shot. It’s obviously a much better real-world street bike at a much better price!

  • talonz51

    Try condensing appearance/grin/cool factor into one category and add a price factor to get some real numbers here….

  • Russell Leishman

    I’m really thrown by your scoring around these 3 machines. It seems like in order to ensure the 2 top end bikes beat the bottom end value leader in the trio you needed the savage mark-down of the Suzuki in the ‘technologies’ category ,along with marking it down in the final 2, entirely subjective, categories. Bizarre that your staffers say something like”The Suzuki has no faults, which can’t be said of the other bikes in the group”, yet you make it 3rd! Amazing!

  • sauerquint

    If you score them 3 points for 1st, 2 for second, 1 for 3rd, it’s Ducati, Suzuki, Agusta. Adding a price row didn’t change it,. Leaving out grin and cool didn’t either. I scored the ties as tied for first or tied for last. Fiddling with that didn’t change the placement either.

  • Michael Kohler

    the best motorcycle is the last in this comparison. okay. i understand…… sorry for my bad english, i am from Germany.

  • lux Aureole

    Really? The Suzuki is the cheapest coming top for engine, suspension and ergonomics yet is last? Poseurs all.

  • Neil Simpson

    Considering getting an 899, but now the S1000R naked is on its way, I’d be really interested to see a top end naked bike review. Pretty please :)

    • TroySiahaan

      It’s on our “to-do” list! Once the bikes become available, we’ll put something together.

  • Nathan

    I really enjoy these detailed reviews so thanks for taking the time and effort.
    I’m really considering swapping my Speed Triple for a Brutale 800 but I’m nervous about the fueling. Many of the latest reports on MV800s (Dragster, Rivale) say the new software package makes it fuel almost perfectly. What is your experience?

    • Kevin Duke

      Stay tuned for our Rivale review. Best MV fueling yet.

      • Nathan

        Thanks for response and the tip. I’ll be waiting.

  • Mark Porter

    I understand the philosophy of middle weights, but when you’re comparing a 899cc, 800cc and a 750cc, with the winner being the largest displacement of all three, I would say of course it would win in many of these category’s however, it appears that unless you’re riding the Italian made bikes, it’s impossible to get a win for the Japanese stead fast, that the test seems skewed. The two Italian bikes are much more expensive and boast the electronics packages where the Suzuki remained simplified at almost 3000 and almost 4000 price difference, yet it still won in the engine, suspension and comfort category’s where you scored it low on a lot of category’s that of course it could not compete considering the price point and displacement. I say if you want to have a good comparison, we could keep the two Italian bikes and pit them against a comparably priced liter bike from Yamaha, Kawasaki or Honda. I think you find similar results in the comparisons that you found here because unless you’re a Ducati or Italian made bike you cannot win in the media’s eye. I put to the test, you take a Kawasaki ZX-10r with the K-TRC system and then lets go to the track and see who wins that battle. Price wise it is comparable to you two other test bikes and features similar controls such as ABS, Traction Control, lap timer, eco/sport/tour mode and see how the Italians compare. If you’re going to test a 899cc bike against a 750cc bike allowing it to have a 150cc advantage than I would assume that it would be a similar response to allow the ZX-10r to have a 100cc advantage. In this test bed, HP goes to Kawasaki, Electronics, Kawasaki can deliver equally, Steering and control, Kawasaki with it’s damper, suspension, Kawasaki with host’s of rebound and dampening adjustments, style could be a toss up, comfort, toss up, cool factor Kawasaki based on it’s neck snapping power of course grin factor it would win also, instrumentation a toss up with digital and analog displays, handling would be a toss up, clearly the results would have been a lot different, I contend there would be no comparison and Kawasaki would kick the tail of the other two, you could then throw in the R1, CBR1000rr, or GSXR-1000, probably with similar results. How also could you score so low in the areas of cool factor and technologies the GSXR, really bashing the Suzuki here, those scores dropped it so low that there is no way it could have competed closer, especially when the price point difference is so skewed. That’s why I suggest the other competition, bring the price point and displacements close to comparable.