OK, boys and girls, repeat after me: “Do not engage with idiots. They can be dangerous…and possibly have even crazier friends who are armed.”

This endeth the lesson.

  • allworld

    A good lawyer can shift the outcome.
    Rednecks in pickup trucks with guns…………..

    • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

      never a thing to mess with-and never a good idea to flip people off from a bike! Hasn’t everyone seen “Easyrider”?

  • JMDGT

    Real class. Good thing the guy had his helmet on.

    • sgray44444

      He asked for it what he got. It could have been worse.

    • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

      i thought that might have broken his neck until he got up…

  • novemberjulius

    I’m curious about two things: First do we watch these videos for entertainment or education? The Romans watched Gladiators kill each other for entertainment. Is it coming to that? Second, this is very disturbing. Was there any law enforcement intervention or investigation? It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong, I guarantee if I posted a video of me, um let’s say jumping over an interstate in California, all hell will break loose to get me arrested for inciting a riot and possession of a dangerous weapon. Yet, some hillbilly’s beat the snot out of some city slicker supermotards, and nobody cares.
    That being said, if someone slights you on the road, honk at them, shake your fist, but then disengage in order to enjoy the rest of your ride. It’s not worth it to resort to violence, especially in California where weed is legal but self defense isn’t. When in the country you never know who’s armed.

    • novemberjulius

      After some research I’ve found that the local sheriff is supposedly investigating the incident. Good ol’ boys.

    • sgray44444

      I would say don’t even honk or shake your fist. You just look like a passive aggressive idiot and it doesn’t take much of anything to incite people these days.

    • HeDidn’tWeDid

      I don’t do anything except let them pass and get on down the road now. For some reason this behavior is also common here in Arkansas. These guys in these trucks think they are impervious to the rules of the road and they really really do get offended if they are passed. The kids in the video might have been a acting like punks, but when that one guy brought out the shotgun, that was where this situation become much more serious than simple road rage.

    • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

      Why watch? Because it’s interesting, because we have shared experiences that turned out differently, because we want to see how this goes down and maybe learn something. Like, you’re wearing a helmet, head-butt the attacker!

  • Brian Clasby

    Or travel armed.

  • john phyyt

    Maybe it is from experience BUT. When I saw the Shot-Gun come out .
    Time to check your own offensive capacity and; if lacking. Withdraw.

  • Matt Gustafson

    A classic case where just about everyone involved could end up in jail because of stupidity.

  • Gruf Rude

    Interesting local case this week. Good Samaritan sees Rager in pick-up run two ATVs off forest service road, then jump out and attack the kids riding the ATVs. Samaritan intervenes, stops the beating and blocks Rager from further chasing of the kids. Rager then advances threateningly on Samaritan, who retreats to his car. Rager continues to advance, so Samaritan moves away from car (his wife and two small children in car) and draws pistol warning Rager to stop. Rager continues to advance; ignores repeated warnings. Boom. Dead Rager, shot 3 feet from Samaritan. I’m not sure the Wild West was any wilder . . .

    • Sean Matthew Molle

      Maybe guns will make people safer again? Maybe if the biker knew he was rolling up on a bigger person with friends who have guns he wouldn’t have picked the fight. Maybe if the rager knew he could get shot he would have backed down. It’s hard to say.

      • Gruf Rude

        I think the old saw,”An armed society is a polite society” has been pretty conclusively proved false.

        • Uncommon Sense

          Nope. It means you learn to not argue with random people over minor sh*t. Not enough people have gotten the memo yet.

          • DickRuble

            Nor over important sh*t. important or non important is irrelevant when guns are around.

        • Jeff S. Wiebe

          The society isn’t armed, though. Only a small sub-population. (In this clip, 1 individual out of the 7 or 8.) If everyone was armed, it would be a test of the saw. Mutually assured destruction as deterrent.
          (My comment is not meant to indicate I agree with the saw, or support general armament. Just thinking about the statement itself.)

          • Sean Matthew Molle

            I too am further interested; especially in the proofs. Thank you.‎

          • DickRuble

            Compare Japan criminality to US criminality. It is true that Japan have the edge (a big one) in education.

          • Sean Matthew Molle

            Good point. I’ll look into it.

          • Douglas

            Japan does not have “multiculturalism” to contend with, and the core family is still predominant. They also for the most part don’t parade around constantly trumpeting about “MY RIGHTS!!”

          • They are very homogenous compared to the US, culturally and genetically and their CJ system is different. They don’t have habeas corpus there, not like here and the police can shift charges to basically detain you until you either confess or be found guilty.

          • Kevin

            Ignorant racist are usually completely wrong about things that they say and in this case that’s true as well

          • And morons that experience cognitive dissonance parrot BS talking points from the progressive hymnal.

          • Kevin

            Fn delusional.

          • You sure are Troll, which is exactly what you are. Go musterbate somewhere else.

          • Kevin

            Into the gutter he goes just like the guttersnipe he is. Is that a Red state education putting the finer touches on your spelling? 🙂

          • Kevin

            Moronic twit. Yep, sums it up nicely for me.

          • WalterFeldman

            What Jim L says about Japan is spot on, I’ve been living there for 20 plus years. So put away the racist card and come up with a real argument.

          • Kevin

            Jim L: “I’d rather have anti-gunners given one way tickets to Afghanistan to participate in Bacha Bazi competitions.”
            Your “buddy” is a first rate asshole. Now I welcome you to the club as well (pick your friends better)

          • DickRuble

            There is a direct correlation between the number of guns in circulation and homicides and assaults with handguns. When Australia banned certain guns and made it much more difficult to buy guns, crime by gun dropped immediately.

          • And their rates of assault and rape are higher than here.

          • DickRuble

            Let’s prove the world that you’re talking out of your a$$

            Rape rate (per 100,000)

            Japan Ranked 52nd 1
            US Ranked 9th 27.3

            http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

          • Talking about Australia and the comments about Japan explain why it’s lower there. If you approve, move there and become a citizen.

          • DickRuble

            I’d rather push for legislation here to have gun owners committed to chain gangs, and if they don’t like it, they can move to Chechnya.

          • I’d rather have anti-gunners given one way tickets to Afghanistan to participate in Bacha Bazi competitions.

          • Gruf Rude

            With over 300 million firearms in a population of 300 million men, women and children, the US society is in fact heavily armed and the daily reports of shootings OUGHT to make it clear to all that guns might well be involved in an altercation. People are still impolite, though . . .

          • Jeff S. Wiebe

            I understand your point: in this link, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country] giving guns per capita for various countries ,we see that there are 112.6 guns per 100 persons in the US! However, my understanding is that this does not in any way suggest that everyone has one gun, and some even have two. Rather, there are a small number of persons each with a large number of guns, and a large number of persons each with no guns at all. In which case, I still cordially contend that the society is not armed: just a small subset within the society, and the saw is unable to apply, because the mutually assured destruction deterrent is not uniformly in play.
            I’m Canadian, grew up with my dad having several rifles, having friends with large collections of guns, but I myself have never owned one. My cash and time were always dedicated to other pursuits, though I’d be fine with having a gun and the time to go shooting.

          • roma258

            I am trying to think how this situation would have been improved if the college kids were carrying. So they see their boy getting stomped on, do they draw on the yokels? Do we have a stand-off now? Does someone get itchy fingers?

            Seriously, how does this situation improve with more guns?

          • sgray44444

            The guy with the shotgun could have legally been dropped by someone with a concealed carry, but it would probably be a legal battle later. He’s really lucky none of the guys standing off to side were carrying.

        • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

          actually in such a society Darwin awards are handed out for a few weeks then things calm down considerably

        • Douglas

          Well the saw is largely true, but there are exceptions to every postulate, no?

          This happened close to me, and tonite local news told the other side of the tale….seems the bikers were the ones who got a little aggressive & mouthy first. However, the really big guy in the vid was charged by the sheriff with a misdemeanor of some kind. Story said there were about 12 bikers in the group.

        • Rob Alexander

          Really? Where? Here in AZ, everyone carries and everyone knows it’s a bad idea to pull a gun thinking it makes you superior to the other guy, ’cause the other guy likely is carrying too.

          And why does most (notice I did not say “all” or “100%”) of the gun problem exist mainly in Chicago, Detroit and DC, all places with Nazi-style gun control?

      • Sean Matthew Molle

        I too am further interested; especially in the proofs. Thank you.

    • Mark D

      Woah. Not the time to call somebody’s bluff.

    • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

      Three feet sounds fair. He was coming straight for him!

      • Gruf Rude

        Sheriff’s Department press release called it as self-defense.

        • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

          I’d call it that, too!

        • Sean Matthew Molle

          Wow! Interesting. Where was this?

          • Gruf Rude

            In the Medicine Bow National Forest near the Vedauwoo climbing area in the Laramie Range, about 25 miles west of Cheyenne, Wyoming.

          • Sean Matthew Molle

            Oops. My fault. You’re referring to the samaritan/rager story right, Gruf Rude? Self-defense makes sense to me too.

          • Gruf Rude

            Yes, The Wyoming shooting was ruled self-defense by the Sheriff.

  • John B.

    Of course, Evans is right in saying it’s best not to engage with enraged people.

    I guess I need a tank-mount shotgun holder to go with my short barrel stainless steel shotgun. Rednecks respect the “rack-rack” sound of a shotgun. Stops em in their tracks… unless they’re on meth or drunk.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a1a983f36aaf23e5e605c244e47615c9d29d5d2c49b923574c376c840dae35ca.jpg

    • Gruf Rude

      Trouble is, there’s ALWAYS a good chance they are drunk and on meth . . .

    • Relayer

      Shotty needs to be on left side and owner needs to practice firing w/left hand. A LOT. I think I would plug that open barrel too. You know, the one that is facing oncoming airstream, lol.

      • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

        bet you it whistles something fierce! a Kleenex would do it without blocking the barrel dangerously

    • john burns

      Don’t we think cameras are a good thing? People were able to get away with that kind of crap forever. How does presenting that video to local law enforcement NOT get people charged with assault and battery, assault with a deadly weapon, what am I leaving out? The kid on the bike was an idiot, but he didn’t start in shoving the other guy.

      • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

        i don’t think flipping people off is good sense-sometimes it goes the other way though like awhile back the was a video of a biker kicking a car door on the freeway(!) and subsequently causing a wreck-i think they are still looking for the guy…

        • Kevin

          You got that one backwards skipper. The guy in the bike did kick the car but as we all know that can’t cause too much damage. It was the drivers reaction that cause the accident

          • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

            definitely the cager’s bad reaction to the door being kicked caused the actual wreck,but the chain of causation leads back to the biker,because if he hadn’t done that-no wreck;of course following my logic,if the car hadn’t cut him off…so,again you were right.But i think anyone who has thrown a leg over a saddle knows that you have to ride defensively;it really is unbelievable how invisible you are on a bike;loud pipes help!

          • Kevin

            Been riding 39 years and by no means is that biker innocent. Stupid to boot. You’re right about being invisible but, you need to study up on the Doppler effect. Loud pipes just piss people off (including other bikers). You want to be noticed? Put reflective tape on your bike, wear high-viz clothing and put a lot of lights on your bike (triangle pattern, whites and ambers). Does it cost money? Yeah. Worth every penny.

          • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

            you could even start a new trend,make a sort of fashion statement and have LED’s on you leathers! many bikes nowadays have ports for plugging in GPS,Bluetooth and the like

          • Kevin

            One of my bikes has 4 different USB ports, extra lights, reflective tape and a truck horn installed to replace the stock tweaker. With a Hi-viz helmet and jacket, yep I’m noticed. Otherwise, I’d probably be dead.

          • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

            it’s difficult to know but sounds like you’ve certainly taken some pro-active steps toward survival!-maybe LEDs for night riding isn’t all for looks ,either…

      • John B.

        Cameras are a great thing because they eliminate the biggest lies (e.g., “I never saw this man in my life.” or “I didn’t have any alcohol tonight.”). However, videos, including this one, never tell the entire story. I agree the video appears to show various participants committing the crimes you referenced, among others, but authorities would require more information before they pursue a case.

        Whether or not anyone gets charged in a situation like this depends on several factors:

        1. The jurisdiction where the incident occurred. For example, Dallas County and Collin County border each other, however, crimes that get a person 30 years in prison in Collin County sometimes do not even get filed in Dallas.

        2. Whether or not the victim wants to press charges. Criminal cases belong to the State, but prosecutors give deference to the victim in many cases. If the riders were just passing through town, they may not care what happens to the rednecks. In situations like this one, if the victims don’t care the authorities don’t care either.

        3. The likelihood of getting a conviction. The video show what appears to be criminal activity, but There is more to the story. Do these people know each other? Have they interacted before? What happened before the beginning of the video? What did the parties say to each other during the altercation? Was there a small child in the pickup truck? Was the woman pregnant? And so on.

        4. Local resources / prosecutorial discretion – Local authorities have guidelines about which cases to pursue and which cases to let slide. In some communities, an incident like this one is front page news. In other communities, something like this doesn’t hit the radar.

        Even IF the kid on the bike did something that justified the use of force, the redneck used excessive force. In short, I agree with you, but crime is rampant in this country and in many places incidents like this one are not a big deal to law enforcement. Frankly, in most urban areas its easy to get away with crime. The really bad criminals get caught eventually.

    • Jay Moto

      Hahahahaaaaa, you are correct

    • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

      just gotta know what state this is in-love the set-up on the bike!love the bike too,for that matter!

  • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

    didn’t really see any “good guys” in this one-when i’m on two wheels,or even four,i tend to hold back on the “trigger finger”(the middle)-it just escalates the situation

  • D-C4

    Everyones a tough guy, until they meet one.

  • RyYYZ

    I don’t know all the legalities, but I’d say there is a good argument for at least one arrest there (kicking dude who’s down on the ground would appear to be assault, to me). I’d also suspect that getting the shotgun out could reasonably be considered “brandishing” and “menacing”. I’m glad to live in a place where other motorists are unlikely to be armed, at least.

    BTW, dude on the bike should have head-butted the other dude, with this helmet, first thing in that fight.

    • sgray44444

      The guy looked to outweigh him 2:1. I don’t think he was going to win that fight.

      • MyName

        Which makes it more outrageous the other crew showed up to help him, with shotguns…

        • sgray44444

          That’s the good ‘ol boy mentality. I see it plenty around here. To them, that was a fair fight

    • Campisi

      Don’t even have to go as far as the kick. Once Blue Shirt shoved the rider, an argument turned into battery.

    • Rob Alexander

      I wouldn’t do the made-for-TV helmet head-butt thing…. If it fails to be the “Iron Fist” blow you’re expecting, and the opponent grabs onto your helmet, at that point you’re his bitch. The body goes where the head goes, and you just gave your opponent a harness to lead you around by.

      Take the helmet off, grab onto the part of the strap where you have the best grip and swing it like a mace. It’ll do some damage if it connects and you can do it more than once if necessary.

  • MyName

    How the hell does bringing out guns to allow someone to continue beating another individual, who was clearly defeated, not get you arrested? I thought they were there to break up the fight, not to let it continue!

    • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

      heard one of them say something about one on one-though even then didn’t really look like a fair fight,the truck guy outweighed the kid in the helmet by a few stone

  • “Many people are like garbage trucks. They run around full of garbage, full of frustration, full of anger, and full of disappointment. As their garbage piles up, they look for a place to dump it. And if you let them, they’ll dump it on you. So when someone wants to dump on you, don’t take it personally. Just smile, wave, wish them well, and move on. Believe me. You’ll be happier.”

    • Alexander Pityuk

      That’s a nice quote.

    • SerSamsquamsh

      What’s the quotation source?

      • I heard it from Luke McCoy from USA Carry, who says he got it from a NY taxi driver.

  • quadman2

    I think the guy in the blue shirt was pissed before the motorcycle incident. Driving next to the BATTLE AX that got out of his truck would wear on anyone’s sanity!!

  • Uncommon Sense

    Sooner or later, people are going to learn that you don’t engage / talk sh*t to random people, especially in areas where people can legally carry firearms. People tend to lose their minds when operating motor vehicles.

    Motorcyclist especially needs to heed this because the laws of physics dictates we will lose all arguments regardless of who may have had the right of way when arguing with cagers.

    Arguing with cornfed good ‘ole boys is not going to end well for skinny jean college students.

    Sometimes you just have let sh*t go.

    • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

      Amen brother!

    • RyYYZ

      Agreed. While clearly the response from these slack-jawed yokels in their pickup trucks (and for the record, I have nothing against yokels, pickup trucks, or guns in general, just ones that act like this) was over the top and probably deserving of criminal charges, engaging idiots like these as a motorcyclist is clearly not a good idea. Someone, deliberately or not, does something on the road that pisses you off or even endangers your life? Let it go. Or get their plate number and report it to the police. Nothing good is likely to come from taking them on on the road. One suspects this group of riders may have been feeling a little cocky due to superior numbers, too – until this jackass’s friends showed up to back him up.

      • Uncommon Sense

        I suspect the bikers were riding like idiots (I think the guy on the grom had a one of those stupid stunter wheelie bars so I the circumstantial evidence is not in their favor imho). The guy may very well have cut them off or done something though.

        They probably felt emboldened due to their numbers and got a little cocky. I knew it wouldn’t end well as soon as that fat screaming cow came out the passenger seat of the pickup truck. That is a hallmark of trailer trash.

        Throw in the fact the guy was clearly moving stuff, he probably does a lot of manual labor and has that “grown man strength” even though he may look visibly out of shape. It was obvious this was not going to end well.

        I get cut off on my bike all the time. It is just part of riding. I view riding as kind of like running with the bulls. You just have to get out of the way and let them go on. Nothing you can do about it. I may curse. I may even beep or throw a middle finger salute, but you definitely don’t go arguing with anyone. Right or wrong.

        • guymacher

          A Grom is a scooter, not a motorcycle.

          • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

            or a marriage of the two

          • guymacher

            You nailed it!

          • Tinwoods

            Is the Grom an automatic? Is it a step-through? Sorry it challenges your masculinity, but it is decidedly a motorcycle. Just a small one.

      • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

        one suspects you may be right

  • Alexander Pityuk

    Crazy shit! It’s unbelievable how the consequences of throwing a few angry words escalated. As if there aren’t already enough dangers on the road for motorcyclists.

  • kawatwo

    Classy all around. It is definitely not worth messing with cagers 🙂

  • guymacher

    When Fat Boy flashed the “Molson’s muscle”, as Canadians call it, I knew he was a tough dude! Those 12 oz curls will really get you into shape–of a market hog!

  • mikstr

    some fine cornpipe smokers there…..

  • Jay Moto

    Perfect example of the difference between hillbillies and rednecks right here. I am absolutely proud of my Appalachian “hillbilly” heritage. However, I’d NEVER call myself or one of my family members a redneck. These dirty @ss bags of trash are perfect examples of the latter.

    • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

      Rednecks have the look, but lack the skills. All hat and no cattle, as they used to say.
      My friends, we fish, they hunt, I tan snakeskins and turn jackrabbits into jerky.
      I think ‘redneck’ is an insult.

      • Jay Moto

        You’re exactly right. They throw the term redneck around regarding themselves and their friends and family as if it’s a badge of honor and defiance. It’s really just a badge of filth and ignorance.

  • SRMark

    Lesson: don’t be a stupid person.

  • Rob Mitchell

    any reason these fat and brainless wombats aren’t in Jail?

  • TC

    It takes a special kind of stupid for someone on a 500 pound motorcycle to pull up beside a 6,000 pound pickup truck and start yelling and shaking his fist at him. Rule number one of survival : Avoid dangerous situations. I would bet you money that the kid that got the ass whipping will never do that again.

  • TC

    It takes a special kind of stupid for someone on a 500 pound motorcycle to pull up beside a 6,000 pound pickup truck and start yelling and shaking his fist at him. Rule number one of survival : Avoid dangerous situations. I would bet you money that the kid that got the ass whipping will never do that again.

  • KiwiBri

    http://www.newson6.com/story/36362442/authorities-investigating-viral-oklahoma-road-rage-incident

    Authorities Investigating Viral Oklahoma Road Rage Incident

    BY LISA MONAHAN, NEWS 9BIOEMAIL
    Viral Road Rage Incident

    PAWNEE COUNTY, Oklahoma – A road rage incident escalates into an all out brawl in rural Oklahoma.
    The Pawnee County Sheriff’s Office confirmed an investigation is now underway.

    One driver, Paul Wiseley, 60, who can be seen wielding a knife in the video, has been arrested for assault with a deadly weapon & robbery.

    Investigators said they could not comment due to the ongoing investigation.

  • Peter Nicolson

    Mmm dont think i’ll be goin the the states …nutters with guns

  • Wake Up

    Pretty funny how many folks here said that if they were there, and they were armed, the outcome would have been different. Here’s a clue folks: in a road rage situation, if you follow the other person, YOU are the aggressor. You pull a weapon, YOU are going to jail. You injure or kill someone with a weapon and you’re going to jail for a very long time. I have been riding for 3+ decades, I get cut off all the time. I blow it off and go about my business. I ride with the assumption that every brain-dead texter behind the wheel is trying to kill me. I’m still alive. I’ve never had road rager pull a weapon pulled on me. If other drivers pissed me off that much, I’d find another hobby.

    • Kevin

      Land of the free, eh?

  • Walkeride

    Never confront anyone unless you have an escape route, the Biker should have thrown a 1″ nut/bolt through the guy’s windshield and hauled ass. Never stop and go 1 on 1. Of course the best thing to do is learn that Idiots will run you off the road, let it go !

  • Rob Alexander

    Where I live, more often than not, it’s going to be the biker that’s armed. Problem solved.

  • Lenny Freilich

    What state is that? I want to avoid it at all cost! That’s some messed up shit.

  • bigjames

    You know, over the decades I have noticed one thing that calms these idiots down? A simple red flashing LED from a camera, pointed at their suddenly humbled face. If the react stupidly, well, all my rides are sidecars (bad leg, two wheelers got too dicey), rule one, stay on the bike, rule two with a sidecar, remember, it can be used a defensive weapon, and that can be quite fun, they pull a gun, run over the bastard, fast. Camera makes all the difference in court. That is all. Be careful out there.

  • Tinwoods

    Cowardly, fat middle-aged under-educated white pieces of shit. Trump voters.