Rumor filtering down through the ranks has it that when the new version of KTM’s not-so-old uber tourer gets here later in the year, it’s going to be sporting a swell TFT display like the one on brother Super Duke R, along with the other Dukes’ promiscuous split LED headlight and a new windscreen.

We are as nothing without a Thin Film Transistor display, like this on on Super Duke R.

The winner of our little sport-touring comparo back in April already had all the performance hard- and software more than covered; now it will be even more avant-garde beautiful to boot.

The new headlight is a sexual harassment suit waiting to be filed. Don’t touch it. God only knows what else KTM may have up its sleeve.

 

  • Starmag

    UnGainLY despite it’s positive attributes. You can have it in any color as long as it’s orange and black.

  • Sentinel

    fUgLy Af

  • Born to Ride

    Take this bike, replace every piece of body work on it with something else, anything else, and maybe I’d be interested.

    • SerSamsquamsh

      Wrap it up in PC800 body panels?

      • Starmag

        LOL. He probably means ALMOST anything.

      • Born to Ride

        Any time someone brings up the PC800, I get a hearty chuckle thinking about that comment from years ago where crashing one was described as loosing “600lbs of tupperware skimming frictionless across 100 yards of pavement into a parked car.”

      • spiff

        If I were to own one (I’ve thought about it) it would get a Repol paint job.

        • SerSamsquamsh

          That would be awesome!

  • spiff

    fASt as FucK! Only the new Kawi will have an experience as gratifying. (Kind of hope they purdy it up a bit. I think the sdr looks good.)

    • Born to Ride

      Nobody knocks it’s power or chassis. Lol

      • Sayyed Bashir

        Once you fall in love with it, nobody cares what it looks like, armchair pundits notwithstanding.

        • Born to Ride

          Well, I care what it looks like. Although I ride what is considered by many to be the ugliest Ducati ever built, and enjoy the hell out of it. So what do I know?

          • edbob

            First gen multistrada? Had one – bought it for the ride, fell in love with the looks afterwards, sort of like an arranged marriage.

          • Born to Ride

            Indeed. Her subtle curves and wide upturned rear end with the skinny waist has grown on me. I have actually received more “cool bike!” comments from non-riders on that bike than any other strangely. I guess Terblanche was about 10 years ahead of public taste on that one.

          • JMDGT

            It is the A10 warthog of machines.

          • Born to Ride

            Thanks for the custom paint job idea!!!

        • Starmag

          “nobody cares what it looks like” Sorry Sayyed,yes they do, check the comments. It’s the same as saying “nobody cares what umbella girls look like”, which is absurd. Just because you own a Harley and KTM doesn’t mean you have to come to the defense of every model of each one in order to defend your decision to buy one. Example: I have a ZRX but I think Kawasaki makes some extremely ugly bikes. The diection of the market appears lately to be headed away from Transformer. It’s a very polarizing style. A lot of Boomers as well as Millenials love “retro”. For what it’s worth, I think your KTM is one of the better styled ADV’s. No beak. They need to face their fear and sell a bike in something other than orange and black though.

          • SerSamsquamsh

            “Yes” to all points. I like mo-cycles partly because it gives me an excuse to wear flashy pants and a cool helmet:)

            All the same, a design which is polarizing while not as good as universally beloved, is better than one nobody can remember or describe. Motorcyclists, especially ones on anonymous Internet forums don’t agree on much. Time will tell if its gimmicky or becomes normative.

          • Starmag

            “better than one nobody can remember or describe”. True, but also true about memorable ugly bikes as well. I don’t think anyone, especially Suzuki, will forget the B-king, or it’s sales numbers.

          • SerSamsquamsh

            Heh- I knew the BKing would get a mention:) Suzuki has a peculiar sense of style at the best of times. Clearly I’m in the minority on both these bikes – I like the outrageous styling. I wouldn’t buy either because the performance is too outrageous for me. I was sorely tempted by the SD though “not as terrifying as I expected”.

          • Starmag

            If you liked the BKing’s styling it was a great bike that all reviewers loved. Didn’t sell well though, I could have bought a new one at one point for $7k.

          • Sayyed Bashir

            What I meant was people look at the few pictures in a article and decide whether they like a bike or not (armchair pundits). If one actually looks at a real bike from all sides in three dimensions and actually rides the bike and experiences all the other features of the bike and spends some time with it, their decision could be entirely opposite. Look at some of the comments above where they started out with a ugly bike and fell in love with it. That was my point.

          • SerSamsquamsh

            Agreed. Assessing a sculptural object meant to be appreciated in the round from a blurry 2d representation isn’t great. The discussion about “shunning” feels pertinent here. That said orange seems to be a trigger color. Either you hate it or love it.

          • Sayyed Bashir

            Just like green?

          • SerSamsquamsh

            Just like green. I don’t have a favorite color because I’m not 5 years old:) It sucks that everything is on a spectrum of black and white these days. Another reason to like motorbikes! I chose my truck in part because it was the only one that came in an actual color- red. Maybe I am 5 after all;)

          • Starmag

            Women seem especially repeled by orange.

            https://www.livescience.com/34105-favorite-colors.html

          • Sayyed Bashir

            Good. I don’t want them riding KTMs either, but sadly there are too many excellent motocross, enduro and rally women riders who seem to embrace orange:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b198459fcf7498a90ccad93d6e1ecc1c9356ab6be31fb3e37218c02d38bbf595.jpg
            Kacy Martinez, AMA National Hare & Hound Champion 2017

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b63c86c1d523dc5d3de0e05abf75d3fefb17b289838eb8b8ee9b0bdb223add32.jpg
            Laia Sanz, finished 9th in Dakar 2015
            13 times FIM Women’s Trial World Champion
            5 times FIM Enduro Women World Champion
            4 times Women Class Rally Dakar Winner
            4 times Gold Medal Women Endurocross X-Games

          • Starmag

            Obviously performance is the utmost concern in competition, not appearance, which is not true on street bikes. If it were, you couldn’t give Harelys away for free, and we both know they command premium prices that don’t have anything to do with performance.

          • Sayyed Bashir

            Since this is a discussion about KTMs, there doesn’t seem to be any need to drag Harleys in here. By the way, the KTM 1290 Super Duke took four of the top five spots in the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb this year including setting a new fastest time record. There’s performance for you. Harleys have exactly the performance people want from them. That’s why they buy them. They have the kind of usable performance you can use everyday instead of just at the track. Last I heard, Harley still had 53% of the 600cc and above market

      • spiff

        A while back I responded to someone on here (I think it was you) that the sdr while fast, accelerated in a boring fashion. I would like to say I was wrong. Don’t know if it took me time to adjust from my previous bike, of the computer neutered it for the first 600 miles. What I do know is I tore up a Mustang so bad that the guy just shook his head an said “that thibgs a rocket”. Fyi, it was a street start, I went when I heard his exhaust. My TC was on 2 so I went by him side ways with the wheel in the air. Dude, I felt like a baller :o).

        • Sayyed Bashir

          On my KTM 1190 Adventure R it says in the manual “During the first 620 miles do not exceed 6,500 rpm”. This may be enforced by the ECU.

          • spiff

            No, it still let the revs build. I didn’t beat it hard, but I did run it up and down the tach. I think the computer keeps things toned down for a little while. All this said, I did almost flip it over on my maiden voyage. Got lucky.

          • Sayyed Bashir

            I did the same thing with the 1190 getting on the freeway and used to twisting the throttle on my Harley to get up to speed and almost fell off the bike.

          • Novatoan

            It’s not. You can over-rev to your heart’s content during break in. I did on my 1190S. It will cutout at some point past redline, tho.

          • Sayyed Bashir

            I don’t abuse my motorcycles.

        • Born to Ride

          It was me, I think I responded with the anecdote about my test ride where slammed the throttle wide open at 45mph in 3rd gear, resulting in the dash lighting up like a Christmas tree and instantaneously passing 3 cars with the front wheel perfectly 3-6 inches off the ground the whole time. Baller indeed.

      • DickRuble

        “Its” power. It’s a possessive.

        • kenneth_moore

          Correct for $500.00. The grammer is easily remembered if you know the apostrophe replaces a letter. In this case he didn’t mean to say: “nobody knocks it is power.”

          • DickRuble

            Oh boy.. I don’t like the looks of it but I sure didn’t need the imagery ..

          • Novatoan

            Vagina? on a Transformer, maybe.

        • TWB

          Actually, it’s is a contraction of it is, where its is a possessive, and grammer should be grammar, unless you’re (not your) talking about Kelsey. Nice headlight.

          • Rocky Stonepebble

            To right their, buddy.

          • TWB

            Too right there, mate. 😉

        • Born to Ride

          iPhone bro. It does what it wants.

  • JerryMander

    “It’s just as important to look good as it is to feel good” No it isn’t, drunk ass

  • edbob

    I knew there was something I liked about that headlight!!!

  • “The new headlight is a sexual harassment suit waiting to be filed. Don’t touch it. ”

    Nice!

    • Starmag

      Well, why not? We now have pussy hats and more out in public
      http://cdn3.volusion.com/dgtck.fzden/v/vspfiles/photos/PH-1-2.jpg
      http://www.heyterry.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/women-in-vagina-costumes.jpg
      I can imagine the arrest and/or hail of lead from LEO’s if one of those obviously demon-infested white males did the gender equivelent.

      • It must be difficult to exist in our culture, when everything is a reminder of the unrelenting, crushing oppression of white Christian middle-class suburban men. How do you find the strength to get out of bed in the morning?

        • Starmag

          Nice try, not Christian. Obviously the demons help me up.

          Thanks for proving my point with sarcasm. lol.

        • Rocky Stonepebble

          Vagina jokes aren’t funny.

          Period.

          • Lol you said “period.”

          • Rocky Stonepebble

            Bleeding right!

        • Born to Ride

          You don’t have to be any of those things to think walking around in a vagina suit is idiotic and indecent.

        • StripleStrom

          What’s with the Christian hating on this site lately? I don’t see where anyone said anything about the “crushing oppression of white Christian middle-class suburban men”.

          • Dan

            exactly, Christians are behind Roy Moore, they’ve changed a lot apparently

          • StripleStrom

            Pretty broad brush you paint us with. We’re actually behind Jesus Christ. I understand that there are many nominal “Christians” who have given quite a bad representation, but maybe taking people on an individual basis would be a better way to go and prove that your not bigoted and closed-minded.

          • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

            in general white straight Christian men(and certain women) are the last bashable “minority”

      • Rocky Stonepebble

        Shudder!

        Anyone that would tap that, is too lazy to wank.

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        Gah! i bet she used to be fine too

      • Bmwclay

        I like the purple one.

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  • JMDGT

    I like the new TFT displays. On some bikes the analog instrumentation is better. My old roadster has a speedo tach and clock. All analog.

  • Max Wellian

    The fact it won a shootout as a sport tourer is evidence that you weigh going fast far too heavily. The problem with that bike isn’t that it needed a TFT. It needs things like decent passenger accommodations, a luggage rack that can affix a top box, and a centerstand to oil the chain.
    As it is, it’s a nice sportbike that has bags capable of carrying some bug remover and rag in one and an extra set of gloves in the other.
    I don’t need 160 hp to explore 50 mph backroads nor do I need all the complexity to limit it or the insurance bills that go with it.

    • spiff

      And they make a bike for you, this isn’t it. The top box is an option, but to lube your chain you will need to push the bike one foot at a time in a parking lot. Btw, you can leave this thing in 3rd and cruise around a sane speeds. I have full coverage on my sdr for $820 a year.

    • TronSheridan

      Then don’t buy it. Motorcycling has become rife with people who have the attitude of “Stop liking what I don’t like!”

      • StripleStrom

        While I agree, he was just voicing his opinion, like everybody else on here.
        The lines are getting pretty blurred between all of the categories. I like the idea and think we need more sportbikes with luggage. At the same time, I think we are rapidly approaching technology saturation, not just in motorcycles, but everywhere. The simple motorcycles that remind me of a simpler time are starting to appeal more and more.

        • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

          yep! the new Enfield twin may do well because of your last two sentences

      • Max Wellian

        I don’t care what you like. I’m telling you what I’d expect from a sport touring motorcycle. If all you expect is a repli racer with tiny bags, then they’ve nailed it for you. I ride a lot and with a woman and I expect little things…like being able to lube the chain…and storage capacity that exceeds two doo rags.
        I’ve also heard on another review that the power is so abrupt, it’s a helmet banger anyway.
        All I’m saying is that power is way overrated. For the kiddies who think going a buck makes them manly, that’s great. But they probably ain’t reading reviews anyway nor are they concerned with sport touring.

        • StripleStrom

          Sport touring has never been well defined. It’s probably the broadest category, with all of the different options. I’ve made the case before that many adventure bikes (especially the heavy, large-displacement ones) are really just sport tourers in disguise.
          You can make the case, as you have, that this isn’t much of a tourer. I would also make the case that a 690 lb. bike isn’t much of a sport bike. We would be arguing from different perspective at the extremes of the class. Nobody is really any more right or wrong about this; it’s all a matter of choice and perspective.

          • Max Wellian

            If you’d ever seen a well ridden GS, you’d probably have a different opinion, but I digress.
            When I think “sport touring,” I think of a sporty bike that’s practical to tour with. Adventure bikes aren’t just sport tourers on stilts. They don’t run the best tire sizes for sporty rubber, their suspensions are softer and longer to deal with mild off roading, and their COGs are somewhere in the stratosphere just by the nature of the design.
            Most sport tourers are overly large these days because people buy spec sheets. Big, powerful engines are heavy. This one being an exception to that rule.
            The BMW R1200RS is what I think when I think Sport Tourer. Other good ones were the Triumph Sprint (though its suspension was kinda mushy) and the Ducati ST.

          • StripleStrom

            I don’t see how what I said contradicts you about the GS. I agree that it has amazing sporting capability. Heck, I’ve outridden people on liter sportbikes on my DL650 (on tight twisty roads that I know very well). Tire sizes aren’t ideal for sport riding, but rubber compound makes up for a lot of that. Anyone that can outride the better adventure bikes on the street should likely be on the track anyway, which speaks to how capable they really are.
            The bikes you mention are really on the sporty side of the equation. I still see the BMW RT as being the very definition of the class… light weight, enough horsepower, very good luggage capacity, comfortable, features. That bike splits the difference better than most anything, in my opinion. I gravitate towards the Sprint ST side- more sportbike, less tour. I’ve owned an ST1100, and hated every minute of it. What a pig.

          • Max Wellian

            I luv the RTs too. Ridden Cali and the Alps aboard rentals. They were very sporty bikes…and I’ve yet to ride the new gen. I owned an FJR. The Concours fits too, but they are so big they’re more in the tour sporty camp. The thing they all have in common is nice passenger accommodations, plenty of storage, and easy access to the chain or better yet no chain to mess with. All of which is a hell of a lot more meaningful to any kind of touring than being able to reach 150 mph.
            I rode a Vmax years ago and got the lesson loud and clear. Overpowered is boring. When you can’t rev the engine beyond a few grand without breaking into triple digits, the fun is eliminated and all that’s left is worrying about when the docile engine will get you incarcerated. And to make it worse, that bike had the jerkiest throttle response I’ve ever experienced.

          • BDan75

            To me, the word “overpowered’ is overused. It doesn’t mean “more power than I personally want” or “more power than I can fully use without risking my license.” That’s either totally subjective or almost universally the case once you’re above 75 hp or so.

            Overpowered is dropping a 600 hp engine in a car but keeping the original wheels/tires/brakes/chassis designed for 175. As I understand it, that’s kinda what the original Vmax was. But thanks to huge advances (in pretty much everything, but especially electronics), I don’t think many modern bikes meet the definition.

          • Max Wellian

            I was referring to the current gen Vmax. The original was a pussycat in comparison.
            Overused? When was the last time you read an article that criticized a bike for being overpowered? Being men, we are drawn to the biggest, baddest thing to stroke our fragile egos. Journalists stoke this kind of thing. Sells magazines or attracts eyeballs or what have you.
            Thing is, there is some satisfaction, to say nothing of control, in applying the engine over its range. Yes, you could get a ticket on a 90 hp bike, but it’s hard to ascertain if the Vmax engine is even on under about 90 mph.
            On most bikes with such ridiculous power, not only are you paying for the engine to make it, but also for the electronics to limit it so that the tires have some hope of actually hooking up.
            In the end, it’s only money I guess, but I’d rather use it to go someplace on an engaging machine than part with it simply for dyno generated bragging rights.

        • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

          personally i favor the type of bike you describe;but if the companies can make $$$ selling other bikes to different demographics,thereby making the type of bike i like feasible to produce,then everyone wins

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        • Novatoan

          I have read through your replies and think you do raise some good points. However, I have to take issue with your comment on the power delivery. It is not abrupt or a “head banger,” as you put it.

    • Andrew Capone

      Nor do I need 800 lbs of blubber, floorboards, and a schooner’s worth of carrying capacity for a 3 day weekend of fun. Plenty of that available for your demands.

      • Max Wellian

        Did I mention blubber or floorboards somewhere?

      • Dan

        that’s why I like my FJ-09 so much for weekend trips, 500lbs & 115hp is the sweet spot for me.

  • John B.

    The ultimate sport touring solution for people who enjoy long distance sport touring and have a size 14 shoe, is to buy a SDGT, a BMW K1600, a pickup truck, and a trailer. On high mileage days across flat and straight regions, ride the K1600 while your mate tows the SDGT. Then, when on the verge of twisty and undulating terrain, switch bikes. Repeat as necessary.

    • mugwump

      Can’t the K1600 tow the SDGT?

      • Ulysses Araujo

        Seeing your post I just realized the solution for all my motorcycle buying decision problems would be a Goldwing towing a supermoto.

        • mugwump
          • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

            LOL! they aren’t even kidding

        • Sayyed Bashir

          I thought about towing my new KTM 500 EXC-F with my KTM 1190 Adventure R. The best of both worlds.

    • Sayyed Bashir

      Also a size 14 wallet. A cheaper and faster solution would be for you to buy the SDGT and find a friend who has a K1600. Then you ride his K1600 on the long stretches and your SDGT on twisty roads while he does the opposite.

      • John B.

        There is no perfect sport touring motorcycle that gives a rider the best of everything in all situations. Nevertheless, there are many fantastic sport tourers to choose from, each with its own focus.

  • Infadel Macgee

    They could have styled the instrument panel better than that bolt on TV.

    • Sayyed Bashir

      Here we go. You got any better ideas? That “bolt on TV” gives you multiple different screens and layouts to choose from. You see the information you want to see, the way you want to see it. What could be more flexible than that? Round dials?

      • Ulysses Araujo

        He should be referring to the design outside the display itself, that at least on the SDR looks like a small TV or cell phone bolted as an afterthought. I don’t think it’s that bad but a small “I wish to be a windscreen when I grow up” piece of plastic outside it could look better.

  • Andrew Capone

    Apparently, they skipped the 2018 model year, there are still 2016 and 2017’s available. My sense is they priced it too dearly, but I’d have one.

    • Sayyed Bashir

      It may be the price, but mostly KTM is not well known for street bikes so people don’t go to a KTM dealership looking for sport tourers. Only people who are motorcycle enthusiasts and stay up-to-date on the latest offerings know about the SDGT. To them price may not be an issue, but the styling and performance may be too extreme. A KTM is not for everyone.

  • c w

    While very much a non-proponent of unnecessary, crashy Flash elements, one wonders if it might not be better to insert the photo gallery as slide show or set the photos to open in a new window/tab when clicked.

  • Eddie

    I have a 2016 SD 1290 GT. Even though I am in my 50’s, I am an adrenaline junkie! This bike can be a calm iron horse or a young stallion as you travel many miles. This bike is two bikes in one and does a great job at both. Just like a traveling sports car with just enough storage. This bike always makes me smile and has the electronics to make me a better safer rider. I have owned around 25 bikes and ridding since I was 10. The SDGT has been my best bike and totally dependable.

    • Sayyed Bashir

      You tell ’em!

  • michael32853hutson@yahoo.com

    i will be glad when the current Transformers/origami/Anime fashion is over

  • William Buffton

    KTM continues it’s quest to shake up the establishment. Good for them!

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  • David Wales

    So… has it been updated? Headline seems inaccurate.

  • Tom Traynor

    The upcoming Adventure 1290 S for me–and me pillion–and bags. I already have this de-bagged: SDR 1290 and it’s a better that than this.