Indian is Developing VVT for Thunder Stroke Engine

Dennis Chung
by Dennis Chung

In April, broke the news that Indian is about to introduce a new liquid-cooled V-Twin engine originally developed for Victory Motorcycles. The new engine is expected to power a new fixed-fairing tourer and likely several other models, leaving some to wonder about the future of Indian’s air-cooled Thunder Stroke 111 engine.

A new patent application recently published by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office suggests the Thunder Stroke may not only be sticking around, it may be getting a variable valve timing system. The patent illustrations show an engine that looks nearly identical to the existing TS111 (see below). From the outside, the only visible difference is a circular plate in place of the Indian logo on the cam cover.

Internally, the engine in the patent is also similar, with two valves per cylinder driven by hydraulic roller-rockers. The four pushrods are matched with three camshafts: two single-lobed camshafts for the exhaust valves and a double-lobed center shaft for the two intake valves. That plate that is visible on the outside of the engine is part of the cam phaser assembly used to vary the valve timing.

A cam phaser is used to alter valve timing by rotating the camshaft forward (advancing) or backward (retarding) in relation to the crankshaft’s rotation. Unlike Ducati‘s Desmodromic Valve Timing (DVT) which has cam phasers for both intake and exhaust valves, Indian’s idea applies only to the intake. This makes it more like the system on the Kawasaki Concours 14 which also varies the intake timing, only Indian’s patent is applying it to an overhead valve V-Twin configuration.

In color on the left is a rendering of the Thunder Stroke 111’s valve train. On the right is a drawing from the new patent. The only visible difference is the cam phaser on the end of the center camshaft.

The engine control unit controls the cam phaser’s rotation, advancing or retarding the intake cams, affecting the amount of overlap when both intake and exhaust valves are open during the exhaust stroke. According to Indian’s patent application, this allows some of the exhaust gases to flow back into the intake manifold as a form of exhaust gas recirculation. Inert gases from EGR reduces cylinder temperatures, and thus inhibiting the production of nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions. At lower rpms, however, more valve overlap can result in a rougher idle, so it may be more advantageous to retard the intake timing.

According to the patent, the cam phaser can rotate the intake camshaft by up to 35 degrees. Exhaust valve timing is unaffected by the patent’s setup.

Keeping emissions down will be important in the face of tighter regulations. Euro 5 regulations come into effect on Jan. 1, demanding cleaner engines from motorcycle manufacturers. Reducing emissions is likely one of the reasons Indian’s about to release its new liquid-cooled engine, but adopting VVT technology may also help keep the air-cooled Thunder Stroke compliant with the new restrictions.

If Euro 5 is the main the motivator behind adopting VVT, then we may see Indian introduce it to the Thunder Stroke engine as soon as this year. As always, we’ll have the latest here on as more information becomes available.

Dennis Chung
Dennis Chung

Dennis has been a part of the team since 2008, and through his tenure, has developed a firm grasp of industry trends, and a solid sense of what's to come. A bloodhound when it comes to tracking information on new motorcycles, if there's a new model on the horizon, you'll probably hear about it from him first.

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  • Trn Quc Trung Trn Quc Trung on May 12, 2019

    So some of the exhaust gases will flow back into the intake manifold, will it affect the engine performance ?

    • Born to Ride Born to Ride on May 13, 2019

      Exhaust gas recirculation has been a part of automotive engineering for decades now, and they don’t seem to be having any problem getting double the horsepower/displacement ratio we were seeing in before it existed.

  • Allworld Allworld on May 12, 2019

    I'm thankful for the Euro 5 regulations. As much as the current US administration is trying to ignore greenhouse gases, it's Europe that will save us from ourselves.

    • TheMarvelous1310 TheMarvelous1310 on May 21, 2019

      How, with horsepower and mph limits? Euro regs are taking the actual soul out of motoring and replacing it with a series of appliances with no character beyond superficial aesthetics.