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acecycleins 06-12-2007 10:35 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Ok- the cops are impounding bikes and are saying 'you can get it back- just produce a M class license."



You'd love to produce such a license but you can't because your bike is impounded and in order to get licensed you must complete the RIDING portion of the test. Well, can anyone say AUCTION. Someone here has to have a dealer license.

bkbennett 06-12-2007 10:38 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Munson 06-12-2007 10:41 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
You need a person with an M license to ride the bike away. Not necessarily the owner. Maybe I should post up on craigslist offering to ride squids' bikes back to their mom's garage, for a reasonable fee.

seruzawa 06-12-2007 10:44 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 


Yeah. Well, it still is simple harassment. And after everyone gets a license the accident rate won't change one bit. An M class endorsement only means that someone can ride a bike in a freaking parking lot. If you want to really protect the public make those codgers pass commercial driving requirements before they can drive motor homes. In fact make all codgers take driving tests each year over age 70. These people are the most dangerous next to teenaged boys.



Too many codgers vote. Don't dare mess with them. Oh no.



I wonder how many rapes, child molestations, drug deals on school grounds and mob extortions happened while the glorious Revenue Agents... er, I mean NYPD were out "protecting" the public?

johnnyquest 06-12-2007 10:46 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
So, here's my question. In most states you can't buy a car unless you have a drivers license, so how can so many people who don't have a motorcycle license buy motorcycles? It should be a requirement when you sign a title over that the owner has to prove his or her license. If that many people are dying on bikes due to their irresposibility then I think the NYPD is doing the right thing.



JQ

pplassm 06-12-2007 10:48 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
I've been to that auction. Don't bother.

longride 06-12-2007 10:49 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
They really put a dent in crime in NYC, didn't they? I hope no officers got hurt in this crackdown. On another note, they do have a helmet law there, right? We all know that people with helmets never die, and therefore the death rate should be zero. Everybody here knows that if you just wear a helmet, nothing bad can ever happen to you. Think the AMA was right all along? You betcha!

pplassm 06-12-2007 10:50 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
"In most states you can't buy a car unless you have a drivers license"



I don't think this is true. I know it is not the case in VA. You DO have to produce some sort of identification, but a license is not necessary for registration and ownership.

FrankS1 06-12-2007 10:52 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Aside from a few predictable remarks about "Why aren't they stopping REAL CRIME (whatever that is), the comments have been surprisingly reasonable. So far, anyhow..



C'mon MOrons: Where are the nasty comments about any and all Law enforcement that might limit our right to be squids?

seruzawa 06-12-2007 10:53 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Yep. They sure got their priorities right in NYC. Everyone knows who crime free NYC is. I'm sure it's the right thing to do to have a few officers as possible fighting organized crime.

seruzawa 06-12-2007 10:53 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Baaaa!

Buzglyd 06-12-2007 10:54 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Isn't there a helmet law in Canada?

tripleripple 06-12-2007 10:55 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Agreed. 16 M endorsements would still equal 16 deaths (probably). People in cars don't not turn left in front of a bike because the guy is licensed and insured.

My question is thusly, when are the coppers going to begin pulling over every car on the street to make sure the driver is licensed and insured, the vehicle is registered, and necessary indicators work properly, and impound the car if one of the above is not met? What day does this start?

BrowningBAR 06-12-2007 11:14 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
"Real Crime"

Like rape? How about assault? Stalking? All things that the Phoenix/Scottsdale police department seem to be uninterested in.



Quick example: Ex-wife had someone break into her apartment and rape her. Cops response? "Yeah, we've been hearing complaints about someone breaking into first bedroom apartments. We'll probably put someone on that in a few weeks". Apart from taking down a report NOTHING ELSE happened. Good job.



And last I checked NY has just a bit more violent crime than AZ.



At least unlicensed motorcyclists have generated some state revenue. Boy do I feel safer.


TheFox 06-12-2007 11:15 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
First they came for the smokers.



--Foxy

BrowningBAR 06-12-2007 11:21 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Funniest anti-smoker story:

Amsterdam is implementing a smoking ban in most restaurants and shops. This is causing a stir as it will result in coffee shops being unable to allow pot smoking on the premise.



Pot smoking: Legal and acceptable

Smoking cigs: Filthy and banned in public


The_AirHawk 06-12-2007 11:22 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Then came the Drinkers and chronic masturbators..........

The_AirHawk 06-12-2007 11:23 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Hah!

BrowningBAR 06-12-2007 11:26 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
...crap. I'm gonna have a lot of free time on my hands...no pun intended.

johnnyb 06-12-2007 11:31 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Amendment IV





The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Kenneth_Moore 06-12-2007 11:37 AM

I agree, but...
 
Absolutely right that there are a LOT more important things for the cops to do. But I think the training is useful. It's not perfect, but it's better than learning by crashing...

Kenneth_Moore 06-12-2007 11:39 AM

Florida Model
 
One of the few things the Florida State Government has done that I like is requiring the M/C certification prior to registering the bike. You can buy all the bikes you want, but you can't take them onto public roads until you've passed (the admittedly imperfect but better than nothing) MSF course.



Seems like a good solution to me.


The_AirHawk 06-12-2007 11:40 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
People would look at my physique funny when I was younger - told 'em I was a "Professional Arm-Wrestler".......................

The_AirHawk 06-12-2007 11:42 AM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Already crossed-off the List there, pardna'!



Sometime around 1987...............

seruzawa 06-12-2007 12:08 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
But, dude, going after unlicensed riders makes the sheeple feel safer. As long as they "feel safe" and think that "something is being done about it" they are apparently willing to live in crime-ridden hellholes.



The people of NYC deserve the craphole they live in. They are welcome to it.

seruzawa 06-12-2007 12:10 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
God, I love it when I can get moderated down to dipstick by the fascist ostriches.

seruzawa 06-12-2007 12:12 PM

Re: I agree, but...
 
Well, duh. However this ain't Salt Lake City or Boise where there are maybe a dozen murders a year. This sort of LE activity is like sending the fire department to save a doghouse while across town an orphanage is burning to the ground.

seruzawa 06-12-2007 12:16 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Sounds raht subversive to me there, boy. Good thing that the War on Drugs has rendered this radical, out-of-the-maintream "right" largely superfluous. Now LE can be extra efficient.



Lots of jaywalkers and litterers to get next!

mscuddy 06-12-2007 12:55 PM

Re: Oui oui
 
Well they don't have that in France. But they do have laws like:



Between the hours of 8AM and 8PM, 70% of music on the radio must be by French artists.



It is illegal to kiss on railways in France.



No pig may be addressed as Napoleon by its owner.



It is illegal to take photos of police officers or police vehicles, even if they are just in the background.



It is forbidden without a cemetery plot to die in the territory of the police department.



An ashtray is considered to be a deadly weapon

sarnali2 06-12-2007 01:33 PM

Re: Oui oui
 
I broke one of those thick glass ashtrays over some guys head when we had the riot at the club in Guantanamo, dropped him like a sack o' taters.



Hope he was an airdale.......

mscuddy 06-12-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Oui oui
 
If he dropped like a sack of taters, he was probalby a bosuns mate (black shoe). Us Airdales would be too loaded to feel anything, and we'd just stumble back to the bar for another Cuba Libre...

bigjames 06-12-2007 01:58 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
You know, they probably saved a few lives by doing this. To many unlicensed riders having too many accidents all over the place. No license, no ride, however, they should do the exact same thing with the cagers! You know there have to be a lot of folks in NYC who never bothered getting a drivers license! Same mentality, just different ride. And to the posters claiming a catch 22 on the no license bit, get a friend who has a license and they can take the bike home once THEY get the bike legal...one would think that this would have been taken care of at the time of purchase, it is way down south in Georgia...

seruzawa 06-12-2007 02:46 PM

Re: Oui oui
 
Oh yeah? In my experience airdales are usually passed out under the table long before the snipes and bosun's mates are even half loaded.

seruzawa 06-12-2007 02:58 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
I'll bet that they didn't save one single life. Licenses are largely toilet paper. Car licenses are jokes and m/c licenses are beneath pathetic. If you think otherwise just look at all the 3/4 blind codgers driving at 20 under the speed limit. The DMVs give out licenses if the oldsters are merely breathing.




testcase 06-12-2007 03:06 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
I think you only need the license to arrange for financing, no?

NLJ 06-12-2007 03:27 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Everyone rants and raves about this. They do the same thing with cagers. Who here hasn't passed a seatbelt check point. You have to verify your license, registration, and insurance at these stops. If you don't have all of the above they impound your car. Simple as that. If you have a licensed driver in the car with you they will let that person drive away but you still get a citation.



Do the right thing and they can't take your bike. Simple as that.

mscuddy 06-12-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Oui oui
 
..those were weak airdales, the ones who cross-rated over from the blackshoe rates.



Real airdales can hold down five blue valuims, a gallon of sangria and 1/2 oz of red leb before passing out.



Obviously you stand corrected. pre whiz-quiz Navy of course..

BrowningBAR 06-12-2007 03:47 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
Never gone through a seat belt check. Again, another waste of resources.

The_AirHawk 06-12-2007 04:08 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
I've gone through more seatbelt/sobriety checkpoints than I can remember. Usually on a moto. If I'm riding, only once have they bothered to ask for my license (and that was in another State, with my Wife and a friend of ours on their bikes too) - usually just wave me on through. I guess the lack of wobbliness as I rode up to the cops was half a clue I wasn't drunk, and that's really what they were looking for.

johnnyb 06-12-2007 04:11 PM

Re: NYPD Nab 350 Bikes, Issue 5,900 Citations.
 
it's people like you who make America great.





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