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MOKE1K 12-31-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by mscuddy (Post 200127)
Will Harley Davidson, who's only entry level motorcycle is the Sportster, start producing 100cc, 250 & 500cc entry level dirt bikes, dual sports and steet bikes?

Since HD's running out of 51 year old midlife crisis buyers for its big v twins, it's only natural they would want to tap into the expanding entry-level bike scene with smaller offerings, off-road bikes being the first major step. And combined with the Harley Davidson name, this could be a giant market for Harley.

Rumor has it the bikes will be assembeled in the United States, by a well known company who has years of experience building dirt bikes.

You can say "I heard about it first on".

Wondering if this has anything to do with all those 598beacons scores they approved for 20k? Naaaah!

MOKE1K 12-31-2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by BrowningBAR (Post 200153)
Unfortunately, yes. And make it a bit more reliable.

Where have I heard this before,.... Oh yeah, Harley!

mscuddy 12-31-2008 03:57 PM

No, I think HD's seen the signs and since my contact said it's market share went from 50% to 14% in five years (didn't check) HD needs some new bikes. This is no BS. HD hired a BIG distributor from the 70's (who's home office was in Burbank BTW)and put him to task on the off-road market, and put he this plan together.

I think it's a mistake myself, what with the economy and everything, bad timing. The Japanese still own the small bore trail bike/dirt bike market. Hard to beat products. HD would be lucky to break even.

We'll see.

sfcdjevans 12-31-2008 04:05 PM

Hmmm, branding in young off road riders. Get's 'em to the dealership in dads truck and then keeps 'em there.

acecycleins 01-01-2009 04:21 PM

Three pages of thread and no one says ATK? ATK folding onto HD would be great. Like the MV move. Stunning, but cool. It's a great time to buy companies and HD must be forecasting some 5-8yrs forward. If they pay MV debt and re-adjust the profit figures south the stock will drop, but the cost of the long term investment will pay off. Buying MV and (if it is) ATK would round out the entire HD platform.

mscuddy 01-01-2009 05:09 PM

Pretty savy there Acecyleins...of course I can't verify your claim, but...

pplassm 01-01-2009 07:09 PM

I don't see how they can afford to buy anything more. Their stock went from the 50's to under 20.

longride 01-02-2009 05:24 AM

It doesn't matter if they can afford it or not, or even if the idea works or not. After a few years of screwing up by buying MV and trying to produce small bikes that never will sell, they can get in line with Ford and GM with their hands out for a bailout.

sarnali2 01-02-2009 06:48 AM

I dunno'... maybe they could get Oblama to enact a 5 year import tariff...say on bikes over 750 cc's you know, just untill they can get back on their feet....I mean they could have it lifted early if things went well...

mscuddy 01-11-2010 05:22 PM

See? And it turned out that Frank White from ATK (who sits on the HD board of directors now) went the cheap route and is giving us warmed over Hyosungs slapped together in Korea, with either an ATK or Harley sticker on the gas tank.

Guess he couldn't battle all those union types that would have made a 650cc Hyosung V twin "built in America" cost around $15,000.00.

Betcha thay don't sell many at the HD dealers...

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