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2009 Victory Vision Tour 10th Anniversary Edition
 
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2009 Victory Vision Tour 10th Anniversary Edition

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Kenneth_Moore 05-27-2009 04:14 PM

Is it true that only people who contributed to the Obama campaign were selected to get these bikes?

fonzie 05-27-2009 04:43 PM

I just read it on the interwebs - doesn't that alone make something true?

mscuddy 05-27-2009 04:59 PM

My god, that is the most beautifull bike I've even seen, it's so beautifull...I get all choked up...sniff sniff...so functional, that fairing....I... *gasp* can't catch my breath! Awestruck! Awsome!

A finer machine will never again be made by man nor beast. Kudos Viceroy! You're another Amazing Fuji Industries Company!

longride 05-27-2009 05:56 PM

I see you are finally getting into the spirit of things here Cuddy!

sarnali2 05-27-2009 06:16 PM

Well it's nice to see you guys finally coming around to see the quality and beauty inherent in each Victory product. I climaxed in my pants the first time i sat on one......it was an intensely personal moment...

mscuddy 05-27-2009 06:30 PM

...and my butt crack left an indeleble crease on the seat I sat on it for so long, it was woodie city, and I'm paralyzed! Man, the Viceroy Viagra they should have named it, makes you feel like a real MAN!

Contact a doctor if you sit on it for more than four hours, or serious injury might result....

longride 05-27-2009 06:44 PM

I think you guys are right on the money here. What a wonderful, beautiful machine. I don't think I've been this excited since my first girlfriend. This bike is easily worth twice what they are asking. It's perfection on wheels.

Dr_Sprocket 05-27-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by longride (Post 214765)
I think you guys are right on the money here. What a wonderful, beautiful machine. I don't think I've been this excited since my first girlfriend. This bike is easily worth twice what they are asking. It's perfection on wheels.

I get it! I get it. Wednesday is "opposite day". Good one.

longride 05-28-2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Sprocket (Post 214768)
I get it! I get it. Wednesday is "opposite day". Good one.


Get with the program Pulley. I didn't hear a 'harumph' out of you!

seruzawa 05-28-2009 06:54 AM

Matt, you neglected to mention the most important characteristic of this artistic masterpiece. It's superior road holding ability. The Vision is a shining example of road holding weight. At 900lbs it is the famed irresistible force.... pick a line and nothing can sway it.... gravel, sticks, old paint cans, baby carriages, broken down Knuckleheads... all fall to the wayside of this brobdingnagian juggernaut. The discerning Victory Vision rider can ride coast to coast in confidence that nothing will impede his journey. Not even the Rocky Mountains.

Kenneth_Moore 05-28-2009 06:58 AM

You haven't lived until you've seen one of these done up in full NASCAR regalia. The one I saw must have had 20 lbs. in stickers and decals.

I don't think you guys realize that Fonzie's ride was one of only 100 made. These bikes will someday grace the auction stage in Scottsdale, and some lucky owner will put his kids through college and retire on his profits.

At least that's what Klazy Ken told me.

Kenneth_Moore 05-28-2009 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa (Post 214786)
At 900lbs it is the famed irresistible force.... pick a line and nothing can sway it.... gravel, sticks, old paint cans, baby carriages, broken down Knuckleheads... all fall to the wayside of this brobdingnagian juggernaut.

And those are American pounds too, not those cheap-o Japanese or Italian ones.

sarnali2 05-28-2009 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenneth_Moore (Post 214790)
And those are American pounds too, not those cheap-o Japanese or Italian ones.


You're darn right they are, why that's road-holding American steel in there made from good solid Canadian iron ore and forged right there in Bethlehem PA., not those melted down sardine cans them foriegn bikes are made of......you hit a crosswind in Kansas on this baby and it ain't even gonna feel it!

Buzglyd 05-28-2009 07:43 AM

And they all lived happily ever after...........

Kevin_Duke 05-28-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sarnali2 (Post 214794)
You're darn right they are, why that's road-holding American steel in there made from good solid Canadian iron ore and forged right there in Bethlehem PA., not those melted down sardine cans them foriegn bikes are made of......you hit a crosswind in Kansas on this baby and it ain't even gonna feel it!

Man, you guys can be harsh! The Vision is among the lightest big-rid tourers thanks, in part, to its use of aluminum (not steel!) for its frame structure.

longride 05-28-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke (Post 214818)
Man, you guys can be harsh! The Vision is among the lightest big-rid tourers thanks, in part, to its use of aluminum (not steel!) for its frame structure.

Just a quick check of the specs for big-rig tourers:

Victory Vision = 882 lbs. dry (from thier site)
Harley Ultra = 814 lbs. dry (from their site)
BMW 1200 LT = 860 lbs. wet (actual test)
Honda Wing = 881 lbs. wet (actual test)


I see that aluminum frame really kept the weight down on the Vision. Combine that with its stunning good looks and low, low price, and we have the most unbeatable deal in all of motorcycling! This is a 'gotta have' motorcycle if there ever was one!

seruzawa 05-28-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by longride (Post 214821)
Just a quick check of the specs for big-rig tourers:

Victory Vision = 882 lbs. dry (from their site)
Harley Ultra = 814 lbs. dry (from their site)
BMW 1200 LT = 860 lbs. wet (actual test)
Honda Wing = 881 lbs. wet (actual test)


I see that aluminum frame really kept the weight down on the Vision. Combine that with its stunning good looks and low, low price, and we have the most unbeatable deal in all of motorcycling! This is a 'gotta have' motorcycle if there ever was one!

You know you are in bizarro world when the Harley is the lightest bike.

So many wonderful choices in 800-900lb Tourers and also in 600-750lb "Sport" Tourers these days.

Kevin_Duke 05-28-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by longride (Post 214821)
Just a quick check of the specs for big-rig tourers:

Victory Vision = 882 lbs. dry (from thier site)
Harley Ultra = 814 lbs. dry (from their site)
BMW 1200 LT = 860 lbs. wet (actual test)
Honda Wing = 881 lbs. wet (actual test)

Mixing wet and dry weights is pointless. Here are wet weights.

Vision: 890 (from a competitor's test)
Ultra: 889 (OEM sourced)
Wing: 895-928 (OEM sourced)

Auphliam 05-28-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke (Post 214854)
Mixing wet and dry weights is pointless. Here are wet weights.

Vision: 890 (from a competitor's test)
Ultra: 889 (OEM sourced)
Wing: 895-928 (OEM sourced)


The kids were having such a good time KD. Why'd you have to go and confuse them with facts?

mscuddy 05-28-2009 01:03 PM

Hey, put some knobbies on it and...ZHAZAM! Dirt-Tourer-Juggernaught.

Since it is one of the most striking examples of form-following-function I'm positive with a good set of knobbies, it's Blackwater material for sure!

Now where to put the route sheet? No matter, the Viceroy makes its own routes.

longride 05-28-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke (Post 214854)
Mixing wet and dry weights is pointless. Here are wet weights.

Vision: 890 (from a competitor's test)
Ultra: 889 (OEM sourced)
Wing: 895-928 (OEM sourced)

I still fail to see how this proves your statement:

"The Vision is among the lightest big-rid tourers thanks, in part, to its use of aluminum (not steel!) for its frame structure."

So it's 5 lbs lighter than the Wing, and is heavier than the Ultra, and is certainly heavier than the BMW, which was forgotten about, so how does that make it among the lightest anything? It is just as heavy, or heavier than all of them except the Honda. I find it funny that the two heaviest(the Honda and Vision) of the four have that weight saving aluminum frame so they aren't REALLY heavy. It's also a gas that Victory's own site claims a weight of 882 for the Vision DRY, yet oil and a full tank somehow only add 8 lbs? OK. I guess gas and oil are lighter in the Victory than in the other bikes.

Here are the specs I found on the Victory:

2009 Victory Vision 10th Anniversary Specifications and Price - Motorcycle USA

seruzawa 05-28-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by longride (Post 214861)
I still fail to see how this proves your statement:

"The Vision is among the lightest big-rid tourers thanks, in part, to its use of aluminum (not steel!) for its frame structure."

So it's 5 lbs lighter than the Wing, and is heavier than the Ultra, and is certainly heavier than the BMW, which was forgotten about, so how does that make it among the lightest anything? It is just as heavy, or heavier than all of them except the Honda. I find it funny that the two heaviest(the Honda and Vision) of the four have that weight saving aluminum frame so they aren't REALLY heavy. It's also a gas that Victory's own site claims a weight of 882 for the Vision DRY, yet oil and a full tank somehow only add 8 lbs? OK. I guess gas and oil are lighter in the Victory than in the other bikes.

Here are the specs I found on the Victory:

2009 Victory Vision 10th Anniversary Specifications and Price - Motorcycle USA

Screw it. I say we put some CR500 engines in some DRZ400SM frames and go have a ball trolling for Supersports on the Angeles Crest.

SmokeU 05-28-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa (Post 214872)
Screw it. I say we put some CR500 engines in some DRZ400SM frames and go have a ball trolling for Supersports on the Angeles Crest.


HERE HERE!!!

mscuddy 05-28-2009 02:06 PM

I usta do that all the time on a street legal YZ490...heh heh, knobbies and all.

seruzawa 05-28-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mscuddy (Post 214875)
I usta do that all the time on a street legal YZ490...heh heh, knobbies and all.

Put on some 17" rims and let's go have fun with the literbikes. You know, I'd forgotten that you could get a shtonking quick bike pretty cheaply back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and 2-strokes were king. If the auto engineers work out the emissions problems on 2-stroke engines, a real possibility, those days might come back with 300lb bikes making over 100hp. I'm all for it. Bigger is not better.

fonzie 05-28-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa (Post 214876)
Bigger is not better.


Bigger is better wehn you realize that you need two cakes on your birthday to hold all the candles! But dreaming is fun too! :)

I'll take a goldwing with chap warmers and a motard stuffed in the trunk any day!

Kevin_Duke 05-31-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by longride (Post 214861)
I still fail to see how this proves your statement:

"The Vision is among the lightest big-rid tourers thanks, in part, to its use of aluminum (not steel!) for its frame structure."

So it's 5 lbs lighter than the Wing, and is heavier than the Ultra, and is certainly heavier than the BMW, which was forgotten about, so how does that make it among the lightest anything? It is just as heavy, or heavier than all of them except the Honda. I find it funny that the two heaviest(the Honda and Vision) of the four have that weight saving aluminum frame so they aren't REALLY heavy. It's also a gas that Victory's own site claims a weight of 882 for the Vision DRY, yet oil and a full tank somehow only add 8 lbs? OK. I guess gas and oil are lighter in the Victory than in the other bikes.

Here are the specs I found on the Victory:

2009 Victory Vision 10th Anniversary Specifications and Price - Motorcycle USA

I had two points:
1. You had weight figures that weren't accurate or directly comparable.
2. Singling out the Vision for being too heavy is misguided, as it doesn't really weigh any more than its competitors. Plus, it has more features (and more power) than the Harley, which naturally add up to more weight.

If you want all the doo-dads and hee-haws and farkles on a big touring bike, it's going to weigh a lot - no matter who manufactures it. If you don't want a heavy bike, don't expect to be happy shopping in the luxo-touring segment.

longride 05-31-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_Duke (Post 215108)
I had two points:
1. You had weight figures that weren't accurate or directly comparable.
2. Singling out the Vision for being too heavy is misguided, as it doesn't really weigh any more than its competitors. Plus, it has more features (and more power) than the Harley, which naturally add up to more weight.

If you want all the doo-dads and hee-haws and farkles on a big touring bike, it's going to weigh a lot - no matter who manufactures it. If you don't want a heavy bike, don't expect to be happy shopping in the luxo-touring segment.

Your 'point' that I addressed was your quote that the Victory was 'among the lightest of the big-rig tourers'. The fact remains that it isn't among the lightest, and in fact is heavier than most of them. I never singled out anything about the Victory. I did single out your 'point', which was incorrect. My weight figures were plenty accurate. They just weren't 'your' figures, which still proved the Victory was heavier than the rest. I'm not sure why you even said what you did.

Kevin_Duke 06-01-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by longride (Post 215111)
Your 'point' that I addressed was your quote that the Victory was 'among the lightest of the big-rig tourers'. The fact remains that it isn't among the lightest, and in fact is heavier than most of them. I never singled out anything about the Victory. I did single out your 'point', which was incorrect. My weight figures were plenty accurate. They just weren't 'your' figures, which still proved the Victory was heavier than the rest. I'm not sure why you even said what you did.

Other than the Beemer, they all weigh within a percent or two. You were bagging on the Vision's weight. I believed that to be unfair.

MOKE1K 06-07-2009 08:05 AM

I'v always liked the lines just not to inspired by the motor, but too each his own. Great lines though.


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