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Old 07-29-2004, 02:40 PM   #21
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Default Victory Sales?

I think the new models, in particular the Vegas, look really great. They would look even better if they were a few thousand dollars less expensive... but that's another thread.



However, I've yet to see a single Vegas or Kingpin on the road despite there being a few of their dealers nearby, including Arlen Ness's own shop right up the road.



How have their new models been selling? All of the dealers I've visited had a ton of them available for sale. Are there some deals to be made?



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Old 07-30-2004, 02:56 AM   #22
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Default Re: 2005 Victory Motorcycles

You don't think they hired Arlen Ness to make it look more like a Victory and less like a Harley do ya? Your comments are spot on.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:21 AM   #23
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Default Re: 2005 Victory Motorcycles

Thanks. I think the folks at Polecatus are missing a big chance here, seeing how saturated the V-Twin cruiser market is.



Why don't they put that motor in a modern chassis, not a Buell copy, but at least something nice & new, with good forks and a (gasp) single shock?



Make the "other" American motorcycle, that has more than 3 inches of suspension travel, and doesn't handle like a wheelbarrow.



After all, Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru, Teledyne-Wisconsin, Robin, Moterenfabrik Hatz Gmbh, China North Industries) just acquired part of Suzuki; maybe they can inject a little GSX into the Victory design.



Take a look at Fuji's golf carts, ATVs and Snow Mobiles...can you say Polaris?











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Old 07-30-2004, 05:48 AM   #24
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Default Re: 2005 Victory Motorcycles

How about an affordable Confederate Hellcat? Now that would be cool.
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Default Re: Polaris part of Fuji ????? Show me.

Go to the Polaris & Fuji Heavy Industries wesites. Do a little searching, it's all there

(Polaris-Fuji-Robin Industrial engine division, golf carts, atvs & snowmobiles).
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Default Re: 2005 Victory Motorcycles

Dig that bent swing-arm.
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:12 AM   #27
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Default Re: Polaris part of Fuji ????? Show me.

Go to the Polaris & Fuji Heavy Industries wesites. Do a little searching, it's all there

(Polaris-Fuji-Robin Industrial engine division, golf carts, atvs & snowmobiles).
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Old 07-30-2004, 10:03 AM   #28
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Default Re: I see a conspiracy...

No, did you check the Fuji site? Click on the "other" division’s link.



And, if you look close, the Polaris site alludes to a link between the two companies, specifically the Robin-Polaris Industrial Engine mfg.



Also, if you’ll view the "other products" link on the Fuji site, you'll see products that are surprisingly, Polaris. Like the displayed red ATV. I can only imagine what the snowmobile looks like...they didn't give a picture.



Some kind of conspiracy, if you ask me.



Like fluoridization, Fuji is trying to sap and impurify all our natural bodily fluids, through the introduction of foreign parts into our American motorcycles. Without our knowledge BTW. What’s next? Children’s ice cream?





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Default Re: I see a conspiracy...

The line got re-named four times, Wisconsin, Teledyne-Wisconsin, Teledyne Robin, and finally just Robin.



Maybe before Wisconsin-Teledyne tanked, Fuji stepped in and bought the name & mfg rights? Perhaps Polaris bought the plant, before Fuji got involved? Intriguing.



Anyway, when this happened, around 1979, the Wisconsin industrial engine went from being a heavy cast iron clunker, to a greatly improved aluminum/steel sleeve unit.



Now, judging by the Polaris site, somehow they’re involved in industrial engine production, for the Robin (Fuji) motor. Hope this ties into the Victory bike, down the road some. Maybe they can do for the Victory, what they did for the Wisconsin.

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Default Re: Ah Ha!

Cut from the Fuji Website:



Industrial Products Division

The Industrial Products Division has designed and manufactured the high performance engines that power Polaris personal watercraft, ATVs, and snowmobiles for over twenty years.



EZ-GO golf carts also utilize Fuji technology. They use twin cylinder inline over head cam (OHC) engines designed and manufactured by Fuji's Industrial Products Division.



This division also makes all of the Robin 4 cycle gasoline and diesel engines marketed by Robin America

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