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eekadog 10-10-2005 02:23 PM

Re: Bad intersection
 
2 wheels rule!

rossbiker 10-10-2005 02:30 PM

Re: Bad intersection
 
This looks exactly like every third intersection in India. I saw this kind of packing and craziness in Bangalore, Mysore, and New Dehli when I was travelling for work last September.



I did hire a motorcycle for a day and go riding with my fiance, but I only did that in the off-season in Goa, which is the Indian beach/vacation state. There was a little craziness here and there, but nothing like the big cities. Complications included the different shift pattern on the bike (top to bottom: N-1-2-3-4), the wildly different torque curve of a 135cc two-stroke, and the completely inferior front drum brake (I barely touch the rear brake on my own ride).



The way it works is: everyone is always looking forward and picking their own way through. Top speed rarely gets up to 45km/h and is more usually in the 25-35km/h range. Side mirrors are folded out of the way (if they're mounted at all) to make it easier to slip into tight spaces at intersections. Right of way rules: military wins, then big to small, then the vehicle in front wins. Head on encounters (left turn through traffic) are negotiated individually, though speed is much reduced (as you can see in the Saigon movie).



In order to let a driver in front of you know that you are behind them, you honk your horn. An almost constant stream of single beeps is a simple "here I am" message. Two or three quick beeps is usually an acknowledgement of some sort (I hear you. I see your turn signal. etc.) Long blasts on the horn are usually reserved for "you're an asshat".



A road vehicle in India may not have windows, decent tires, an actual seat, working headlights or doors, but it will absolutely positively have a perfectly functioning horn or it will not be used on the street.



It was all quite interesting once I overcame my fear of nearly constant collision and started paying attention to what was going on around me.



Later,

Ross

schizuki 10-10-2005 03:05 PM

Re: Bad intersection
 
Saigon. I can't believe I'm still in [SCREEEEEETCH! CRASH!] arrrgggghhh!

schizuki 10-10-2005 03:33 PM

Re: Bad intersection
 
"Charlie don't swerve!"

mscuddy 10-10-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Bad intersection
 
Wow, cool.



10 years ago that Saigon traffic would have been accompanied by choking clouds of two stroke smoke, so thick that it obscured whole intersections, and resulted in traffic accidents 'cause people couldn't see each other.



Another benefit of the 4 stroke revolution?

jjasper 10-11-2005 12:19 AM

Re: Bad intersection
 
I have been to China many times and it is similar, especially in Southern China. Although that mass is more and more turning into cages :(



The riding skill of these guys on little 125 and 250cc motorcycles and 50cc scooters is amazing.



Screw MSF courses, if people had to ride in these conditions for a year everyone would be a skilled rider and be ready for the joys of lane splitting.

moorejr 10-11-2005 03:57 AM

Re: Bad intersection
 
and no crashes!!!!! These rides are crazy or just good.

tomk2 10-11-2005 06:12 AM

Re: Bad intersection
 
they\'re good... anybody can be if they focus on their driving



no music, cell phone, vanity mirror, Big Mac & Jumbo Fries with Coke, etc etc

fruggle 10-11-2005 06:38 AM

Re: Bad intersection
 
Finally a vision of true insanity!!

Nice video.

drthompson65 10-11-2005 08:51 AM

Re: Bad intersection
 
As a guy with a Vietnamese Ex Wife I can contest that is what Saigon is like. you take your life in your hands when you go out on the street..


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