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neoyetif2 09-25-2001 06:22 PM

Re: 2001 Milan Show
Yeah I thought TDM the first time I saw a photo of it. I had a TDM. I think it was a little ahead of its time. The motor could have been stronger and the bike should have been lighter. Other wise I loved that bike. It seems like several knew bikes have taken some design clues from the TDM.

neoyetif2 09-25-2001 06:24 PM

Re: 2001 Milan Show
ughhh... replace "knew" with "new".

I is a grate speler.

starvingstudent 09-25-2001 06:59 PM

To make you jealous/frustrated
You know that Europe is getting a new TDM 900 with an aluminum frame, right? Motorcycledaily did a bit on it.

Don't worry, though--when the US turns all of Europe into the 51st state, we'll get those bikes too.

boxjoint 09-25-2001 07:38 PM

Yamaha Screwed Up!!!!
Overall, I think that Honda gave us the most this year. Correct me if am wrong, but did Yamaha solidify their lineup for the USA??? If so, they handed the Sport Touring keys to Honda (VFR, ST1300) and Kawasaki (ZZR1200). Just from reading posts on MO, people have been BEGGING Yamaha to send us the FJ1300R stateside. If this is the case, I can't see anybody holding out for the FJ and purchasing any one of the aforementioned models instead. Yamaha has a large selection of cruisers but offer slim pickins' in terms of sport models (Although the new silver R1 is HOT).

My personal favorite of this year would be the ZZR1200. Sure, the Honda models might have a little more technology, but the ZZR looks like a classy and simple ST for the masses. The color shown on this site for that model looks very good as well. My opinion might change after we see all of the Suzuki models for 2002 in Paris. I would like to see if they updated my favorite sport bike...The TL1000R.

HyperBusa 09-25-2001 07:46 PM

Re: 2001 Milan Show
That Suzuki V-StRom (not Storm) is the ugliest POS I've ever seen. The Gilera 600 is pretty cool looking, and the Aprilia is also hideous. I'm glad we will never be riding some of these. Looks aren't everything, but holy crapola!! A limit must be set! ;-)

guzzi 09-25-2001 08:17 PM

Re: 2001 Milan Show
U.S. wonÂ’t be getting V-Strom, TDM, new HawkGT or anything else besides Cruiser, tourer and sports bike anytime soon, because in this country motorcycle is basically a hobby, roads are wide and straight and there are plenty of parking spot for cars in the most of the country. And there are only 3 kinds of motorcyclist; Cruiser, tourer and sports bike.

In order for the big 4 to bring "something else" they would need to produce & import in mass quantity like the rest of the models to keep the price down but since the sales forecast will most likely be low the price for these "something else" models would be little high.


Cruiser guys who only ride few blocks (the most ignorant people but the biggest market) would say; "whereÂ’s the chrome", "it ainÂ’t low & long"

Tourer guys, who are the most picky people would say; "whereÂ’s the fairing, or itÂ’s too small", "whereÂ’s the hard bags, shaft drive, heat grip, ABS and etcÂ…", "motorÂ’s too buzzy, too small", "need something comfortable for 1000 mile a day ride"

Sports bike guys who are the most simple minded people would say; "too expensive, rather buy SV or CBR", "not fast enough", "more power!"

The big 4 says, "screw you guys, IÂ’m going home" (Eric Cartman / South Park). TheyÂ’re going to sell these somewhere else!

ozstrider 09-25-2001 10:09 PM

Re: Yamaha Screwed Up!!!!
The FJR1300 has been on sale in Australia for some time. However, you can't get the bags for it! A sport tourer without bags is like a sportsbike with no ground clearance.

Not interested. I'll stick with my '95 ST1100.

johnz 09-26-2001 01:38 AM

Re: 2001 Milan Show
Comet ?

Now theres an ominous name for a piece of transport machinery...

tony 09-26-2001 03:19 AM

Re: 2001 Milan Show
far as I know they haven't released the Us offerings for this year. So far it was just early releases back in June. Bikes they sold out of in 2001.


pplassm 09-26-2001 03:27 AM

C'mon, Schip, the GS and EX haven't changed in years. They need updating badly. Have to agree the Bandits are good deals, although the 600 needs more motor.

Pete P.

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