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sportbike_pilot 09-11-2003 07:26 PM

Re: 2004 Hondas: Packed With Surprises!
Very interesting. The stuff everyone knows about and some of the other stuff as well.

Nice scoop.


nweaver 09-11-2003 07:56 PM

The Cracktacular 599
The 599 seems like a cractacular decision.

The old Hornet was well liked on its own, but against the old Fazer it lost out slightly: especially on the tank range, a good gallon less!

The New Fazer/FZ6 is a big advance: stiff aluminum frame, Fuel-injected R6 engine, spiffy underseat exhaust (rather than bagscorcher-style high-side exhaust).

And there is a new Hornet for Europe.

So what do we get? the OLD hornet, without the fairing, with the old god-damned carburators, the silly-pipes. And an asking price of~$1k MORE than the naked SV and probably $700+ more than what Yamaha will charge for the FZ-6.

sqidbait 09-11-2003 09:12 PM

Re: The Cracktacular 599
MSRP for the FZ6 in Canada is $9K Cdn; about $6600 USD.

As for the 599, in US Honda's defence, the new euro Hornet is god-awful ugly...

-- Michael

sqidbait 09-11-2003 09:26 PM

Re: The Cracktacular 599
Just saw the new "uranium" paint for the 919. It's actually kind of neat...

-- Michael

veepster 09-11-2003 09:49 PM

Re: 2004 Hondas: Packed With Surprises!
Thank you MO for the Redbook.

What is Honda thinking with the 599?

It has no price point advantage for a "standard" motorcycle. Why buy the 599 when a mere $800 will get you on a 919?

My '03 CB750 Nighthawk is a great commuter mount. It's as dependable as gravity and I had enough cash left over to customize it to my liking. Sure it wasn't "lightest in its class"- it WAS the class.

Where is it now???? Gonzo

Sadly I'm getting the impression that the industry is buckling to the poseurs...for shame.

I guess if I want a good old fashioned standard with a big mill I'll be heading to the Suzuki camp for a naked Bandit 12. Of course they'll probably discontinue that, too.

Somebody tell Honda to get that CB1300 over here and they'll have me as a customer for life. I would tell them myself but hey, I'm just a rider, not a poseur.

dominatr37 09-12-2003 01:55 AM

Re: 2004 Hondas: Packed With Surprises!
No "XX" ??? Anyone else notice the CBR1100XX is no longer on thier menu? Guess it went bye bye. Oh well... Guess the Blackbird flies no more

rc51zen 09-12-2003 03:01 AM

Re: 2004 Hondas: Packed With Surprises!
I thought there was going to be a new SuperHawk and a naked RC51. Nothing new I give a ***** about.

mconlon 09-12-2003 03:15 AM

Re: 2004 Hondas: Packed With Surprises!
Last year the most exciting design from Honda was a 50cc scooter, the ruckus. This year, its a pair of 50cc bikes, the coolest of which is not street legal and way too expensive. With the new for 03 SV, the 04 FZ, and perhaps a Kawasaki z700, Honda is so far behind the eight-ball with the Hornet 599, it isn't even funny. $7k?!? Even a Speed 4 is cheaper...

waepoint 09-12-2003 03:27 AM

Ooooooo ... stickers!
I've been griping for months that Honda should bring out a replica RC51. I mean, Aprilia adorns their Mille with two versions, and their GP riders haven't won squat! So Honda surprises me with this Nicky rep and ... well, it's pretty unimpressive, with just some stickers slapped over the stock bodywork. *yawn* ... I suppose it was beyond wishful thinking to hope that they'd honor Colin with a full-on WSBK rep. Woulda been cool ...

SpongeBOB 09-12-2003 03:50 AM

Re: 2004 Hondas: Packed With Surprises!
disappointed here too. Where the **** is the new, updated, improved & awesome SuperHawk I've been waiting for!!!

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