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SilverBullet 07-23-2002 01:17 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
I'm selling my V-Star if you're interested, mini. :)

bluyzfr6 07-23-2002 01:35 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
I had written a post on a seperate article but wanted to make sure my point was heard. Theres a new bike out by Ducati. Not big news or anything, just a replacement for the 998. That would be sarcasm. I have lost all respect for MO and its staff. I will NOT pay anything for this POS site next year. I have gotten more news from the free sites this, the first year of the new and unimproved expensive MO. I wish it was funny, but its not. I really hope the staff at MO understand how dissapointed I and im sure most of readers. For the news (its actually like 4 days old not) on the new duc and other new bikes, check.... ANY OTHER MOTORCYCLE SITE ON THE WEB! Really, type Motorcycle on the search engine and any other site will give u the info on the new Ducati 999. Find a new profession MO!

nitrofly 07-23-2002 01:48 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
"it's a great personal transportation unit"

Apparently so was the zuma. Now let's get back to business and test something like the new triumph TT600.

minime 07-23-2002 01:52 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
bluyzfr6, dear sir (or ma'am? I know not),

We posted something on the New Ducati RIGHT HERE. See? Good. We even pointed readers to Ducati's own web site via a hyperlink should readers desire more information.

Now, instead of guessing what the thing is like to ride, speculating and talking at random about that which nobody yet knows all about, we thought we'd reserve judgement until we actually have something concrete to test. To that end, we have our Italian correspondent working on a full 999 break-down, complete with riding impression for posting ASAP.

Or, as Johnnyb says:


if you're all slobbery over the new Ducati 999 feel free to go to a free


site for God's sake, for the same propaganda you can get at We at MO prefer to wait to have a real bike in our

paws. Afterward, it's a rousing e-mail debate with KPaul about


vs. gerbil, and finish off the evening with a nice mug of hot

coacoa. Get off our backs. We got enough problems."

So, bluyzfr6, find a new profession? We like ours and can only suggest that if you don't like what you see here, please feel free to post your rants on various other free sites of which there are, according to you, many more which are far superior to anything we've got going on here.

Thanks for stopping in.

minime 07-23-2002 01:54 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
There's more interesting stuff right around the corner. i'll admit that the last few tests aren't what I'm personally into, but there are people who care, even if you and I aren't two of them.

So, I promise there'll be something more sporting (and even something more hard-core cruiser within the next week that'll surely give you what you need.

Youngbulll 07-23-2002 01:55 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
I pitched in a subscription fee for this? You guys are really hurting for content aren't you? I promise you there is nothing, and I mean nothing, amazing you can report about a cruiser. Did I mention nothing? I can understand that you're having issues getting test bikes, what with John B's record and all, but there has to be something better to write about than a Vulcan 800! Is there not a motorcycle magazine, whether on the net or in print, that's worth a ***** these day?


Still Waiting for the Good Stuff

hackfu 07-23-2002 01:58 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Define "Good Stuff".

itchface 07-23-2002 02:15 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
People! The name of this site is "Motorcycle Online" not "Motorcycles That Are Really Fast And Corner Like A Frightened Jackrabbit Online." I like the diversity of test subjects, even though I wouldn't buy a Vulcan 800 if they sold for a dollar a CC. MO, please don't listen to the fascists who would have you write exclusively about the bikes they deem to be cool!

Youngbulll 07-23-2002 02:20 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
How about some info/insight on what the Big 4 are planning for the proposed AMA rule changes next year? Updates on a few of your nicer (read sporty) long term test bikes? Performance mods for the home mechanic? 2003 model speculation based on rumor and current market trends? Suspension set up basics both for street and track use? DOT sport tire comparisons? You know, stuff that guys that ride sportbikes want to know.

Do you honestly think that the market segment that would be interested in a Vulcan 800 reads magazines like this? You know all the stuff you think about when your making a deposit on the ivory throne? That's all the same stuff we think about. Well, maybe not ALL the same stuff, but you get the idea. Give us answers and we will give you money.


minime 07-23-2002 02:25 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Let's try to get this back on track:

What did you guys think of the article? The bike? Its competition?

riles 07-23-2002 02:58 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Very entertaining article, well written. I enjoy Johns articles. Maybe will consider trading my F4i for a cruiser in a few years.

Jon_Cowles 07-23-2002 03:01 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
I feel so much better now... I used to think I was the only one afraid of Julia Robert's lips! Thanks Burns!

NoKneeDown 07-23-2002 03:22 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
I was blessed with the ability to have an interest in ALL bikes, including this one. If it's got two wheels and some sort of motor in between, I'm down. My only question concerning this bike is what is the difference between it and it's competition? Vulcans, Volusias, Shadows, and others all seem to be so similar. I think that is why many have a hard time finding anything interesting about any of them. This Vulcan is pretty much the same thing as a Shadow 750 (or an intruder, or marauder), just with a different name on the tank. Even the oh-so-close 600 class bikes have differences that lend a rider to buy one or the other (i.e; street or track). Anyways, my two pennies, don't have a point but at least it was on track with the article. Happy mini? Great read though. I don't care what bike it is, just keep them coming--I can't afford any of them, but I'll read about all of them.

Agent0090 07-23-2002 03:30 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
So I've been working on JohnB's essay assaignment, you know, about the picture out of the Mustang window being worth a thousand (or 10,000) words or something like that? I have questions. Whose Mustang? What's with the surveillance-esque photo out the window? (What, you couldn't get out of the car?) And the question that's on almost everybody's mind: Who's the girl?

Steven_Verschoor 07-23-2002 03:40 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Yeah, who is the girl... and does she have those "fist-clenching cruiser muscles"? :-)

The bike seems well proportioned for her stature... and she looks way cool doing the burnout.

Agent0090 07-23-2002 03:41 PM

Another Thought
I had another thought. (That's it, I'll have to quit for the week now.) I like these kind of reviews, even if this isn't the bike I ride or dream about.

When I was at the bike show in St. louis this past winter I noticed that, tucked away in a corner, Yamaha was still displaying the Vulcan 750 that hasn't changed much since the days of Reagan. It had attracted a couple of people (most older than myself), and the Yamaha guy commented to one of them something to the effect of "It's not sexy, but I've never heard any complaints about one. " It brings to mind Glyden's article from earlier in the week about the elegance and charm of things you can fix yourself. How nice that if I like a bike from ten or more years ago, I can still go out and buy one, new, with a warranty. And not just one. I have my choice of several, from a GS 500 up to a V-Max with several other options in between. Perhaps it's an accident of the industry, but I like that about motorcycles.

I'm done now.

Randy_P_Moran 07-23-2002 03:56 PM

Re: Another Thought
If it was the Yamaha booth, then it would have been a Virago 750. The Vulcan is a Kwak.

Rekord 07-23-2002 04:17 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Well said ! I totally agree with you and I'm buying a Kawasaki VN750 next week (I don't care about 80'es look). Hey different people different bikes !

99R6 07-23-2002 04:24 PM

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Rekord 07-23-2002 04:26 PM

Re: Another Thought
Vulcan 750 has shaft (no lubing the chain),

doesn't need valve adjustment, top speed in three digits but you can with 20 if you like, plenty ground clearance and so on. For six grands (out the door) you get an excellent engine almost maintenance-free (what not to like about that) cruiser comfort AND performance.

Yamaha discontinued Virago 750.

99R6 07-23-2002 04:27 PM

Re: Another Thought

DialedIN 07-23-2002 04:55 PM

Re: Price is the difference
I see these bikes on sale for $5,695 all the time. It is a cheap way to get on 2 wheels. Now did anyone else notice the high reving of this single pin cranked V twin? Slap some obnoxious sounding vance and hines on it and you would have even more power.

Agent0090 07-23-2002 04:56 PM

Re: Another Thought
Oops, you're right. Virago. And apparently it's been discontinued. Never mind.

Steven_Verschoor 07-23-2002 05:04 PM

Re: Another Thought
I wonder if it can disengage the Caps-Lock key for you.

The_Gemini 07-23-2002 06:45 PM

Now I remember why I gritted my teeth...
when I subscribed. Now since I've paid my money I'm going to take my shot. Motorcycle Online is just bland and very boring. I pay for this site but I'd rather go to AMA SUPERBIKE or Motorcycle Daily, or Roadracing World for free guys. Now it's not that I hate cruisers,or scooters, or the like it's just that this site has slow content updating, and when it does update it's Yamaha Bulldogs, or a new Buell vrs. an old Ducati, or a Yamaha Zuma Scooter, or a Vulcan that hasn't changed in years or some other just extemely generic scoot and I just don't care honestly. I don't need a daily crotch rocket fix I just need something moderately interesting once in a while to check in here. I liked the Schwantz article fine, it was humorous and fun and informative. It also stood out in glaring relief to the other material here for the simple reason it was fun, interesting and enjoyable. I'm not asking anyone to share my opinion, or have a meltdown over this I'm just voicing my own feelings. I would have preferred the pay site to be better than it was when it was free but I really think the content is the same or maybe worse. But everybody ask yourself this. Do you really find yourself checking in here constantly thinking something is happening or do you just do it every few days like me? Also ask yourself this as well. Is this site any more fun or interesting than a print mag or any number of free sites? I'm sorry I just don't feel it is. I wanted to like it but from the rumblings around here I'm not the only one who feels this way. Good luck MO with your future subscription endeavors. I will not be resubscribing.

SilverBullet 07-23-2002 07:23 PM

Re: Another Thought
Thanks Steven. I thought I was the only one those CAPS were bothering.

KPaulCook 07-23-2002 07:28 PM

Re: Another Thought

drandall 07-23-2002 07:32 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
JB, I understand about getting old (being a '67 birth myself), but a cruiser? My '97 Ducati 900SS/SP -- to replace my stupidly sold '91 900ss -- is an old, '80s style fart like me, but it can still turn a corner. The seat is low, the bars are pretty high, it makes very nice thumpy-thumpy noises, Nonfango makes a custom three hard-bag touring set of luggage for it, and a Corbin with back-rest keeps my wife's lovely bottom happy. But, Johnny, no cruisers; that's just not right.

A new Triumph Bonneville, on the other hand, might be fun...

SilverBullet 07-23-2002 07:39 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
More details of the riding impression could have been provided. This article was a bit much like a "first ride" type of thing.

Now that you've had access to a few of these bikes... get the rest that seem worthwhile in the class and get the MO staff to pick a "recommended" middleweight cruiser. How does that sound? Comparos are ALWAYS welcomed.

And for the record: I enjoy reading about different kinds of bikes. The GSXR vs CBR vs R1 thing can be fun for a while but not 365 days of the year. Diversity is good, keep it up.

KPaulCook 07-23-2002 07:45 PM

Hamster vs Gerbil
LOL. Gotta go with the hamster. I was tramatized as a child when my sisters gerbil (glorified rat) had babies and escaped. We never did find them all. :) Keep up the good work. I liked the story. Burns is right about rap. The engine on the Kawy is intriguing vs other cruisers.

Did you see the new Buell Lightning on the Buell site? Looks cool ! Does if have the same ergos as the Bolt? Is a Sport Tourer Next? Have you heard anything? I am afraid now think I am closet Bueller :)

P.S. Hang in there even though I criticize your content sometimes. Your site has character and more entertaining reviews. Plus the drag story was cool etc. and I'll stick with you. Hey even Hugh Hefner had his rough days early on.

Adrian_Leeds 07-23-2002 11:23 PM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Do you honestly think that the market segment that would be interested in a Vulcan 800 reads magazines like this?

Actually, they do.

Have you ridden one? Believe it or not, there is some, not inconsiderable, enjoyment to be had in cruising at 110 km/h and looking around. Depends on the sort of rider you consider yourself.

If they made these with tubeless tyres, it'd be in my shed.

jodiesel 07-24-2002 12:47 AM

Re:Enough already
I've had my browser set up so that MO is my homepage, until just recently. I set it back to Motorcycle Daily. I was really getting sick of having some worthless Jap Harley look-alike cruiser as the first thing I see in the morning. I realize when I subscribed that there was no guarantee of sportbike content, but come one, enough already with the cruisers.

Jeff Rice

95XV1100 07-24-2002 01:57 AM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Youngbull, You have no interest in this bike and that's ok. There is a large percentage of readers who are interested in a bike like this. That's not my opinion. Just look around you. Take your non sportbike filters off and you will notice there are a lot of bikes in this class all around you. Like someone else said in this feedback, I have interest in almost anything w/2 wheels and motor between them. I tend to look at the positive aspects of any motorcycle and enjoy riding different bikes because they are motorcycles. All of them ride so much different than their cage counterparts. So much better freedom to look around and the machine is more like the rider when being ridden. Ok I just love motorcycles. Just don't try to bias this e-zine into giving info on sportbikes and race info only. Enjoy what type of info. Let others enjoy theirs!

Happy riding


Small 07-24-2002 02:00 AM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
BMW R1100S, the best of all worlds. Not a torture rack, corners with the best of them, and gets down the highway plenty fast enough to put you in jail.

Ashley 07-24-2002 02:07 AM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Girl? I'm just about old enough to be Stickie's momma! (For those of you not paying attention, Stickie would be El_Flaco, aka Elliot the Internal, co-intern to Raynette "Hoochie" Brodie.) Which reminds me that, while he's several inches taller than me, I'm pretty sure I outweigh him. Note to self: Hate Stickie!

Auphliam 07-24-2002 02:43 AM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Could it be a test of the new Victory? Please tell me you're gonna test one of these.

Auphliam 07-24-2002 02:53 AM

Re: Now I remember why I gritted my teeth...
If they test the new Victory, a Real comparo against the other 'merckin motorcycle maker, and I'll renew. Otherwise, no.

Auphliam 07-24-2002 02:55 AM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Test the Victory, minime!

ZR-7 07-24-2002 03:25 AM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
How about taking it out on a week long trip with a passenger? My GF wants to know about the pillion comfort. Do the footpeg vibrate, how is the seating position, does the rear shock hold two people, etc.? How are the brakes with two people?




VFRider 07-24-2002 03:39 AM

Re: Kawasaki Vulcan reader feedback
Hey Tex, it's called and I believe the Vulcan qualifies. So it's not your cup of tea. So what. Can't do a rice-burner comparo every day. How about you stop complaining and add something positive to the site, like an investigative report on the recent intern sex scandal at MO...Danielle-gate!

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