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Buzglyd 01-22-2007 07:29 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Sales in Europe up 31.2% for the quarter.



Dang and here I was told that Euros weren't into the whole Americana Biker image. They just want practical standards and sportbikes.



Those Canadians are crazy for HOGS too!

longride 01-22-2007 07:40 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Harley finally got the war-like propaganda machine in full swing in Europe, the likes of which haven't been seen since J Goebbles and the crew ruled Nazi Germany, and now the evil corporate monster that is The Motor Compay will force all those that have resisted buying a Harley for all these years to purchase one. It's a plot to take over the world. Der Harley liebenstraum!

Buzglyd 01-22-2007 07:42 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Next thing you know they'll be donating money to Euro orphanages the scoundrels!

MTRHEAD75 01-22-2007 07:42 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
I'm sure marketing there own line of beef jerky helped to promote higher sales in there bike line. lol.

Buzglyd 01-22-2007 07:48 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
If it did you can bet the Japanese would be flooding the market with Kobe beef jerky.

seruzawa 01-22-2007 07:51 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Well, it stands to reason. Since we are moving into a brave new world where motorcycles will have horsepower limits and a plethora of new safety regulations one may as well buy a motorcycle that doesn't depreciate like a Yugo. Since the Europeans are all so much smarter than Americans they are leading the way into the glorious fatality-free future through Sportster ownership. All those who are vitally concerned about the safety of motorcyclists must welcome this new wave of ownership of motorcycles of 60hp or less. Horsepwer limits are just another step towards Total SafetyTM. Horsepwoer limits are part of a Complete Safety Regualtory Package that includes mandated helmets, tiered licensing, mandatory training, mandatory full gear and frequent retesting and safety inspections.

tomk2 01-22-2007 07:51 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
No matter how overweight, underpowered and boring I think Harley Davidson motorcycles are... I gotta hand it to them, for the last 20-some odd years their management team (and the rank-and-file) have been relentless in improving the company.



The fit, finish and build quality on their bikes is excellent, they know what their customers want and they've done a good job of leveraging the brand and creating new revenue streams with all the accessory crap. I guarantee that all other bike manufacturers (except maybe Honda) are watching enviously and would dearly love to emulate their success.



I only wish they made bikes for people who weren't fat and old...



but then that's what Buell is for, isn't it?

seruzawa 01-22-2007 07:52 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
If their jerky is as good as their beer or whiskey I think I'll pass.

ksquid 01-22-2007 08:20 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
There is always a peak before a bust. Interesting how folks read what they want to from these things.. Some folks say hey look at the increase European and Canadian sales. A counter would be will 30% of 100 bikes is 30.. So they sold 130 bikes in Finland.. Woopie doo..

Now the weak dollar is going to help Harley internationally. But eventually demographics will hit there as well..



A more telling number to me is that domestic sales were only up 0.3 % in the last quarter. Also, the note that the heavy weight cruiser market is declining..



Also one would expect a more dramatic increase in sales given the number of new models HD put out... rather because of the new bigger engine. But that didn't happen..




BrowningBAR 01-22-2007 08:22 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
It's kind of tough to f*ck up jerkey.

The_AirHawk 01-22-2007 08:27 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
It's the Harley-branded Cigarettes and "Hog Water" leading the charge...........

The_AirHawk 01-22-2007 08:28 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
And yet, still it happens..........

sarnali2 01-22-2007 08:29 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Sapporo and Asahi is pretty good beer, I'll pass on Japanese whisky though.

BrowningBAR 01-22-2007 08:34 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
According to an article posted on insidebikes.com Harley FXD Dyna series sold 778 units in the U.K. for 2006.



To compare numbers, the BMW R1200GS, which was the top tourer in the U.K., sold 1468 units.



It seems to me that they are making progress considering Europe is supposed to be a weak market for cruisers.



"Supersport bikes dropped by 5%, (possibly more than that if you subtract the 1700 unit sales of the CBR125 R, which the MCI list as a sportbike when it obviously is not )"




seruzawa 01-22-2007 08:39 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
They're okay. That Kirin is real panther p1ss though.

seruzawa 01-22-2007 08:41 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Just try that SlimJim jerky sometime.

BrowningBAR 01-22-2007 08:45 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Hell, even my ex-wife was able to make jerky.



...but yeah, that SlimJim crap is awful.

The_AirHawk 01-22-2007 08:52 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Not factoring-in any Dividends, with 5 splits since its IPO in November of '87 - a $10,000 investment (@ $0.4534/share = ~22,000 shares) in Harley-Davidson stock then would be worth ~$54,000,000 in November of '06 (a high of $75.87 = ~706,000 shares).........

BrowningBAR 01-22-2007 08:56 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
That's brutal.

The_AirHawk 01-22-2007 08:56 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Oh yeah - I sincerely WISH I had been "stupid" enough to sink at least a few-thousand into 'em back before '96 or so.........

The_AirHawk 01-22-2007 09:00 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Whoops! - almost forgot my Sources

ksquid 01-22-2007 09:14 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Yep that is impressive.especially if you note the graph is log scale. I bet it matches the non log scale graph of average age of a Harley buyer..

Good post AirHawk..

ksquid 01-22-2007 09:23 AM

However compared to 25,000 778 is only ~3%
 
From that same article you cite"CBR1000RR, the GSXR1000/600/750 and Yamaha YZF1000 R1 accounted for almost 10,000 sales - or about 40% of the total Supersports sector. "

Which means the total Supersport sector was 25,000 bikes.. That is a lot of squids riding sportbikes

BrowningBAR 01-22-2007 09:41 AM

Re: However compared to 25,000 778 is only ~3%
 
Right, but that was the number of bikes for one of the series of Harley models.



It has been repeated many times that the sportster model is the most popular in the U.K., though I have no numbers on it.



Also, if you recall from previous threads on this subject the BMW GS was ranked very high in number of units sold.



I would probably guess that the total number of HD units sold in the U.K. is about 2500-3000.



Not huge by any means, but it appears to be growing at a modest rate.


seruzawa 01-22-2007 09:53 AM

Re: However compared to 25,000 778 is only ~3%
 
Dollar's down. HD becomes more affordable overseas. I guess the sky isn't falling after all.

pushrod 01-22-2007 09:55 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
I gotta tell ya, I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl on Prom night!



An oil thread AND a thread with Harley profits, complete with "They're goin' straight to hell!" predictions! On the same page!



Come on! Let's start the tire thread!



Wait! Let me get my comfy chair and a ****tail first!



Crap. I just ran outta exclamation points.



Back in a minute...

BrowningBAR 01-22-2007 10:01 AM

Re: However compared to 25,000 778 is only ~3%
 
Personally, I think the Euro market will continue to grow for HD.



It's just a marketing thing. And HD is good at it.



Will they over take the sportbike segment, I wouldn't bet on it. But I bet they end up selling a whole lot more than they currently are.


longride 01-22-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Are you back yet?

pushrod 01-22-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
OK!



Let's go! Capt. Morgan and I anxiously await!



Hey Longride, congrats on Da-Bears!



(My kids got me a whole bucket of !'s from Big Lots for Christmas.)



Y'know, we're overdue for a "Who's the better/worse rider/group" thread, too.



By the way, the weather sucks here. It's 60 degrees! But, the rain just left the area.

longride 01-22-2007 10:33 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
I don't know about any of that other stuff, but I know that sportbikes are the safest bikes on the planet. Bears all the way baby!

schizuki 01-22-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
"A more telling number to me is that domestic sales were only up 0.3 % in the last quarter. Also, the note that the heavy weight cruiser market is declining.. "



So they've increased their sales and their market share?

schizuki 01-22-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
I'm going to kill myself now.

SeanAlexander 01-22-2007 11:55 AM

Don't forget...
 
But only if you wear a freakin HELMET!

12er 01-22-2007 12:08 PM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Sapporo is brewed in Canada, read the fine print

Buzglyd 01-22-2007 12:11 PM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
Well don't forget they've already made car companies redesign cars to be more forgiving when they whack a pedestrian.

Buzglyd 01-22-2007 12:16 PM

Re: Don't forget...
 
What's your opinion about putting a car tire on the back of my Gixxer?

The_AirHawk 01-22-2007 12:42 PM

Re: Don't forget...
 
Don't do it! Burning Death and all that...........

TheFox 01-22-2007 01:15 PM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
The best is that little addendum, "...under Japanese supervision." I'm fairly sure Asahi is brewed in Canadia too. Sapporo is done by Molson!



Sapporo tastes the same in Japan though, so they must be doing something right. Now all we need is a local San Miguel brewery and we'll be good.



--Foxy

TheFox 01-22-2007 01:20 PM

Re: KPaul 4Q Correct Predictions Steady @ 0.0 Pct
 
Oh grow up. You're on your third username since you started talking about how Harley is going to fail, and it is not only old and tired but silly as well.



Wishing Harley to die will not make it so, any more than me wishing I was employed will magically employ me. Just stop, for Pete's sake. Sigh.



--The Fox

TheFox 01-22-2007 01:24 PM

Re: Harley-Davidson 4Q Profit Up 9.7 Pct
 
What bike should I buy! Do these armchaps make me look silly! Why can't I type without exclamation points now!



--Foxy!!





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