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Old 04-08-2002, 11:57 AM   #21
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Default Re: Is this anything like the Enron executives writing energy policy?

Actually, HD asked the Reagan Administration for protection because the Japanese were engaging in "dumping" bikes in the US. "Dumping" is a practice where a company sells products at a higher price in one market so that they can sell products at a greatly reduced price in another in an attempt to destroy the competition. HD felt that the Japanese were trying to eliminate all competition to the (then) growing lines of Japanese V-Twin cruisers. HD was probably right. Japanese corporations are as ruthless as any.



In any case, 'twas the US Govt that imposed the tariff and kept the money. And 'twas the Japanese who were dumping. HD was correct to protect themselves in those circumstances.
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Old 04-09-2002, 02:00 AM   #22
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Are you kidding? Gore would have done a poll and decided that bikes should be illegal because of the danger posed by them to deer.(Gore invented the V-twin in his spare time)
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Old 04-09-2002, 02:08 AM   #23
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No offense but who cares...lets get back to bikes. Somebody help me ...just bought my first bike since college (30 years) Triumph Sprint. Love the bike ....hate the seat. Feels like a tent peg in my prostate after an hour or so. Are the Corbin seats really able to make a difference in comfort? Thanks. If not the Corbin then what do you recommend?
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Old 04-09-2002, 04:52 AM   #24
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My apologies Rod. You are exactly right. I should stay with the subject, economics and tariffs. Should we go back to the British Empire or even further to the closed economies of 19th century Japan or better yet lets look at the 10th century society of China. As I am sure you are aware the first known tariffs were on the product of salt. This product was the basis for the economies of early Venice and also of parts of what we now know as France were based on. Salt at that time was indispensible as a food preservative and in curing processes.(somewhat like oil today) The market was tightly controlled with local and "nationwide" tariffs. The problem with tariffs are twofold. 1. they stagnate economic growth. 2. Create economic retribution. e.g. you tax me,I will tax you. As I am sure you are aware Adam Smith in his book "The Wealth of Nations" explains for the first time the importance of "open market" economies. It was countered 200 years later by Marx in "Das Kapital" and then a middle-ground was attempted by John Maynard Keynes followed by the New Dealers throughout the Roosevelt administrations to counter the effects of the worldwide depression.This depression led to the rise of fascism in Germany,Japan and Italy spawning what we now call WWII. As I am sure you are aware, the eventual outcome of that conflict was the utter destruction of those economies and the birth of the Marshall Plan to rebuild them. The U.S. did much the same for Japan under the guidance of Mcarthur destroying the feudal mentality of the Japaneese and bringing about the birth of a true democratic government in Asia. Under the guidance of Sony the quality of the Japanes products improved which brings us to the V-twin you earlier mentioned. Co-incidentally very little was done to shore up the British economy and thus the failure of many British companies and the experiments by the English with a watered down version of socialism. Thus we finally arrive at the pain in my ass which you have aggravated. I would suggest that since you seem to be very anal in your outlook that you seriously consider proctology as a possible career move.
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Old 04-10-2002, 08:29 AM   #25
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Default Re: Don't dis Gore

Did someone say a shrubbery?



Gore looked like such a winner for the next election until he shaved that beard off. His wife just keeps ruining him.
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