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Old 04-15-2002, 08:29 PM   #11
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They will all be stock. Price will be considered. Tires will be same, same. Etc.
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Old 04-15-2002, 09:32 PM   #12
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Hey M.O., why would you pit the Mille R instead of the standard Mille against the RC51 and the base model 998?



Ducati offers both an R and even an S version of the 998 too, and HRC or Ohlins would be more than happy to spruce up your RC51 for you.



Just seems like you're stacking the deck in Aprilia's favor by going with the bucks up R version against the other manufacturer's plainwrap versions....
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Old 04-16-2002, 12:09 AM   #13
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Not only that, but it's a common comparo. Lots of mags have done MilleR comparos. None have done barebones Mille comparos that I know of. And most of us can't afford the R anyway...
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Old 04-16-2002, 03:41 AM   #14
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I don't think testing a 998R helps any for us U.S. residents cause it's not street legal and costs over 28k. The Mille R and 998 should be a good price comparison but I'd love to see a reg Mille thrown in to see how it competes with the RC-51.
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Old 04-16-2002, 03:42 AM   #15
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Funny thing about this Aprilia. It was sitting next to an MV Agusta F4S at my dealer, and as good and sesible as the Aprilia seems, I got the MV anyway. I don't regret it. Granted, I've only ridden the standard Mille, but I'd have to guess that the MV probably handles as well or better in many ways than the Mille R. The "real world" engine performance of the twins is probably better too, but the MV above 10 grand ain't a slouch. Besides, is it a crime to enjoy 4 cylinder bikes more than twins? I like the Aprilia and will probably own one someday, but it had to wait this time...



Why not include the MV in your comparison? Who says it has to be all twins? I see the price point argument being used above... The Aprilia Mille R and MV are only about $1500 apart...



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Old 04-16-2002, 04:45 AM   #16
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Did anyone else notice the problem here? A week or so back, we heard how the Big G spanked all other big bore fwoars due to its massive power advantage (about 15 hp). Now we are to believe that the Mille R gives up 15 hp or so and goes faster than the R1 on the same roads.



Before you go telling me that the same thing happens in racing, please remember that in WSB, the twins make MORE power than the fours. Also note that in club racing, Ducs and Milles get soundly whipped by R6's.



So, guys, what makes both the Mille and the G1K faster than the R1 on a twisty road?

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Old 04-16-2002, 05:56 AM   #17
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On a tight, twisty road, the Aprilia was _easier_to_ride_ at an rapid pace than the R1. That's all we're saying.
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Old 04-16-2002, 06:03 AM   #18
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Damn it, I just spent that much yesterday on a used 4Runner. Then again the Ole lady would of killed me getting rid of her Jeep and buying another bike. Uh oh, I just admitted I am an SUV owner, please dont kill me. In my defence I do make between 10-20 trips to the slopes a season (snowboarding is an addiction, one I hope no clinic is ever made to cure) and I also camp and Backpack most summer weekends where two wheel drives fear to tread.



Still though, the Mille's have been catching my eye more and more, its only a matter of time. Oh, and Money...
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Old 04-16-2002, 06:18 AM   #19
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"I took back the reigns of our Honda while Pandya-san played with Yamaha's finest." Followed in the next paragraph by, "Then I realized that, yes, we're moving right along, and the Yamaha's rear Pirelli Supercorsa isn't all that warm yet. It's just spun off the second tight corner in a row, and John's still ahead of me."



Er, which bike were you riding, Minime? Is this story believable, or, were you making it all up?



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Old 04-16-2002, 07:29 AM   #20
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I'm confused about your comment comparing the type of power the Aprilia makes to the four-stroke GP fours. The other four-cylinder streetbikes are, by definition, already four-cylinder bikes with big-bore four cylinder power. How could the Mille improve (or even match) that situation? I have read countless comments about the GSXR and R1 having exactly (especially the GSXR) the type of "doesn't matter what gear you're in" power you claim the Aprilia to have, only the Aprilia obiously has much less. The seat-of-my-pants impression of my own R1 agrees. I would like to see how the Aprilia stacks up in a top-gear roll-on contest.



I think the Aprilia is a nice bike, don't get me wrong. At the same time, they shouldn't have ruined it with 1994 GSXR bodywork and lamer-than lame graphics. Aprilia KNOWS how to make a nice chassis look bad.
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