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Old 02-03-2006, 12:50 AM   #31
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Default Re: Where is MO's review?

Yea thanks for the link to motorcycle daily. It is a real hassle for me to visit their site seperatly for free. It is much more satisfying to pay $12 for MO to give me the link.
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Old 02-03-2006, 03:02 AM   #32
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Caught with their pants down!!



Still, come on 16,200 RPM is really really fast one would think they could have told the truth and been just fine.
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Old 02-03-2006, 03:37 AM   #33
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Default Re: Yamaha R6 Falls Short of Claimed Redline.

It's easier to time the 0-60 of a Harley with a calender instead of a stopwatch.
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Old 02-03-2006, 04:02 AM   #34
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Default Re: Yamaha R6 Falls Short of Claimed Redline.

Pretty much all manufacturers have optimistic tachos. This really isn't a big scandal or scoop, or even big news (unless you're really naive). Some British bike mag (PB I think) mentioned that the new R6's tacho wasn't accurate, and that other sportbikes they tested had the same issue. Everybody fibs, so the R6 still has the highest redline of any production bike.



Somebody said that this is a big deal because they made it a centerpiece of their marketing campaign - well, power claims and dry weights have been notoriously inaccurate as well, and also have been used as centerpieces of marketing campaigns for various bikes. When is the last time you saw a 600cc bike make 120hp?
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Old 02-03-2006, 04:14 AM   #35
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Default Re: Yamaha R6 Falls Short of Claimed Redline.

So ... you're *****ing and moaning about posters who ***** and moan?
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Old 02-03-2006, 04:19 AM   #36
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Default Re: Not so fast there Yamaha R6!

What a choice ... incompetence on the Democratic side and rank criminality on the Republican side. What was that third party again? I think they had Nader as their front man at one time. Oh, yeah - Vote Green!
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:17 AM   #37
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oh, i'm quite sure you are politically neutral and that your only interest is focusing on bikes. yap, sure. your very own version of WMD.



and just to be clear there are a number of conscientious folk who opposed the war from the beginning, and even more who do so now. wesley clark, for one. i think he would have made a fine president.



but of course, my rescue shelter mutt go-go would have made a better leader than the little cretin from texas.
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:24 AM   #38
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Default Re: Yamaha R6 Falls Short of Claimed Redline.

Anyone who works in operations and has to deal with the marketing people should be familiar with this type of story. Marketing depts are about hype! That's what they do! Someone said something and they wanted to believe it so bad that they went with it.



Someone's head should roll over this one. And publicly, so Yamaha can regain some trust! The engineers who build the rev limiter sure knew, why not the buying public?
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:27 AM   #39
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D@mn it! I got caught in a vortex of stupidity!
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:41 AM   #40
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Default Re: Yamaha R6 Falls Short of Claimed Redline.

It was.



First year of the variable valve timing equipped Miatas were initially rated at 155hp, only later to be reduced to a rating of 142hp.



The difference is that in both cases Mazda offered some sort of reimbursement for the customers. Yamaha has decided to just yank the 17.5 claim from their site and play dumb.
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