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Old 02-10-2004, 02:33 PM   #71
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Old 02-11-2004, 07:42 AM   #72
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Air cooled twins?



V-2 engine was an European invention as was the motorbike, combustion engine, both otto- and diesel engines, steam engine, stirling engine, rocket motor and a car, not to mention related essential acessories like red wine and condoms. But we'll try our best not to s****** at lesser countries aping our original designs.



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Old 02-11-2004, 08:51 PM   #73
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Yeah, but we invented the airplane. I could score a *lot* if I had a Cessna. Oh, and one of our most celebrated politicians invented the internet. Try to s****** in cyberspace without one o' those! ;D
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Old 02-12-2004, 02:46 AM   #74
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LOL...I didn't think about THAT aspect of its...ummm...appeal.
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Old 02-12-2004, 02:57 AM   #75
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I agree with you that they're marketing folks may have some...umm...issues, but the folks who designed and build the bike certainly take the sport touring market seriously. Spend some time on one and that becomes pretty clear. Not that it's "better," but it fits right in the pack with offerings from Duc, Triumph, and Honda.



It's great to have choices!



Those idiots in Atlanta should be canned...
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:21 AM   #76
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Wow, you guys sure know how to complain about nothing. You're ignoring a huge benefit of this program- RESALE VALUE!!!!!! And these are the same people that use that as a reason to buy a Harley. Go out and buy a Honda ST1300 if you want, but don't be surprised when it's worthless in five years.



The simple fact is that sport touring riders are typically cheapskates, moreso than any other type of rider. This program allows everyone involved to make money.
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Old 02-20-2004, 01:17 PM   #77
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You said it yourself, genius- it wasn't available.
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Old 02-20-2004, 01:23 PM   #78
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Smart man. I agree 100%.



Honda's approach is downright stupid in the long run- it may get them some market share right now, but it devalues their products and also conditions the buyers not to purchase Hondas without a huge discount. The car companies are experiencing this exact same problem right now.



I guess it all comes down to what each company wants to accomplish. Market share is a great chest-thumper, but I'd rather buy products from a company that is interested in making money, because that company will be more financially sound in the future.
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:39 AM   #79
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Two questions about your brilliant analysis:



1) What is inconvenient about the wait? You can continue riding your current bike in the meantime, and most of the wait is over the winter, when most areas of the country are experiencing unpleasant weather.



2) Uncertain wait? What's uncertain about it? $500 guarantees you are getting a bike. What could be more certain than that?
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:45 AM   #80
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Of course, if you talk to a died-in-the-leather beer-swilling, wife-beating, NASCAR-watching Harley rider, you'll get the exact opposite story...
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