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Old 02-11-2003, 04:46 PM   #51
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Default Re: Yamaha & FZ-1 Site Fued

Don't start! I'm trying to kill this thing and you keep giving it mouth to mouth!
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Old 02-11-2003, 10:21 PM   #52
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Default Re: Yamaha Shuts Down, Then Licenses To, FZ-1 Site

FYI, the Fazer 600 is nothing like a Seca!



It has an engine based on the Thundercat's, and is generally regarded as one of the smoothest 600's (95 HP, 64 NM). Add the R6/R1 brakes, the same steering geometry as today's 600's (I think more sporty than the Thundercat), relaxed ergo's (no clip-ons), cheap, and you know why it is the best selling bike in Europe since it's introduction.



It has come out on top in _every_ comparison so far, against the SV650, CB600S, Bandit, but also in tests which included a wide variety of bikes. It has never been compared to the Seca because it is a completely different bike.



The best thing is the price, it is only marginally more expensive than the SV650.



Anyway, my main point is, it cannot be compared to the Seca, I think you guys in the US are missing out on a great bike. Each time an SV is recommended on the forum I can't help but thinking the Fazer would be a better choice for most.
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Old 02-12-2003, 03:21 AM   #53
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Default Hmmmm. Link is gone, now

Looks like someone deleted the post in question. Can someone repost?



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Old 02-12-2003, 03:56 AM   #54
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Old 02-12-2003, 04:33 AM   #55
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Default Re: Yamaha Shuts Down, Then Licenses To, FZ-1 Site

Boo hoo. Oh how chastised I feel. Boo hoo.
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Old 02-12-2003, 06:02 AM   #56
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I'm in publishing, so we deal with copyright and fair use issues all the time.



Publishing excerpts of a longer work, limited to 300 words or less, used in context to your work is fine.



Pulbishing excerpts of poetry or music lyrics is a definite no-no.



If the site scanned a complete Yamaha owner's manual and posted it without permission, they are heinously in the wrong. it would be akin to taking the manual down to the local copy shop, having it copied and bound, and them selling it at a profit. Illegal to the max. They should feel lucky that Yamaha just pulled the plug and is not seeking some kind of punitive damages...

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Old 02-12-2003, 08:59 AM   #57
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Yes, the Seca 2 really was like the Fazer when it appeared in 1992. It had a smooth, decently powerful engine compared to 600's at the time, (keep in mind that this was 11 years ago), it had the relaxed ergos of the Fazer, it was very cheap, it had good brakes (the same as the top dog Yamaha 600 at the time, the FZR600, except with a single disc), and they even had a specific roadrace series for it with excellent contingency. I will admit that it is a different bike now because it has been repositioned by Yamaha, but comparing the concept of the Fazer today with the concept of the Seca when it was introduced in 1992, it is the same.
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Old 02-12-2003, 09:03 AM   #58
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BTW, what is a "FUED"?
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Old 02-12-2003, 09:46 AM   #59
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Having a hard time reading? Above it is clearly stated that the group in question not only did not do these things, but Yamaha is seeking to develop a relationship.



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