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Old 04-24-2006, 06:21 AM   #61
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Default Re: Maybe in raceing but not on the street.

Agree completely! Unfortunately, your argument, which I've advanced myself in responding to prior articles, seems to fall on deaf ears. And, that's because, so long as marketing studies conclude that repli-racers are what that huge, young demographic of buyers want, and regardless of the sophmoric appeal that drives that particular segment, we're going to continue to see this tedious topic rolled-out over and over again.
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Old 04-24-2006, 06:21 AM   #62
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Default Re: VTwins in WSB enjoy rules advantate over inline 4s

KTM is also field testing a 2400 cc (Rotax)single superbike using pneumatic valves, counter-rotating disc brakes, and leading link fron suspension with hub-center steering.
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Old 04-24-2006, 06:28 AM   #63
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Default Re: Ksquid's ''...long, painful death of the V-Twin sportbike.'' Continues...

BMW does make v-twins, at 0 (F800) and 180 degrees (R bikes).
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Old 04-24-2006, 06:35 AM   #64
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Default Re: Ksquid's ''...long, painful death of the V-Twin sportbike.'' Continues...

Bah.. They are not dead.. If WSBK would lift the 1000cc rule on twins they would be back into place. Both Ducati, KTM and MotoGuzzi are asking for this. Look at the MotoGuzzi Twin, it ate everything for lunch in the unlimited twin class in Dayton.. Sorry for the link to the competition site but the new RC8 from KTM is coming out at 1150cc.. I say open it up and let's see BMW, KTM, Ducati and MotoGuzzi hammer it out with the best of Japan.



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Old 04-24-2006, 07:25 AM   #65
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Default Re: Ksquid's ''...long, painful death of the V-Twin sportbike.'' Continues...

here is why v-twins are dying



http://www.socalsvriders.org/albums/...ashzukimpg.mpg



this is a cali site right?



someone told me this guys name was kpaul
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Old 04-24-2006, 10:40 AM   #66
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Default KTM dropping V4 in favor of a V-Twin for superbike racing

According to tepee logic that proves twins are superior to 4 cylinders.



V-twins leading in WSB and BSB racing, 4 cylinder leading in AMA. 2 to 1 in favor of V-twin design. Again, proof of the superiority of twins over fours.
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:25 PM   #67
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Default Re: Ksquid's ''...long, painful death of the V-Twin sportbike.'' Continues...

Then why is it still produced?
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Old 04-25-2006, 01:32 AM   #68
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Default Wrong on both counts.

"it was AMAZING to watch Corser suck the headlight out of Bayliss' duck, lap after lap, on the long straightaway, only to have Bayliss catch back up in the tighter sections of the course, eventually passing him."



If you had watched the race you would have seen the Duc stomp over the Suzuki off the line. Bayliss pulled the hole-shot from second position in both races. The Suzuki passed the Duc on the infield in both races, and in both races Bayliss passed Corser on one of the shorter straights on the brakes.



"or the duck is a LOT gentler on tires,"



If you watched the race you would have heard the commentators say the opposite. The Suzuki is the gentler on the tires. So much so that Corser used the soft compound rear tire and Bayliss used a hard compound.



Bayliss is a "heckuva" rider but Corser is no slouch either. He is the current WSB champ no?

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Old 04-25-2006, 04:14 AM   #69
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Default Re: Wrong on both counts.

well actually, i DID watch the race. that's why i posted, DX.



bayliss got great starts, no doubt. but in the drag race down the main straight, lap after lap, that gixer pulled away from the duck like it was chained down.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:10 AM   #70
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Default Oh boy.

"that gixer pulled away from the duck like it was chained down."



Funny, the "gixer" topped out at 283.5kph and chained down Duc topped out at 285.7 (See http://www.worldsbk.com/).





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