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Old 09-30-2002, 11:04 AM   #21
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Default Re: Hondas loss is Ducatis gain.

No question about the fact that they would like an Italian or Spanish rider. Compared to other manufacturers, it seems that this has been Honda's aproach all along -- look at 125 and 250 GP and all the Honda factory riders are Japanese, Italian or Spanish. Aprilia, on the other hand seems to hire Japanese, French, German etc as well as Italian or Spanish -- maybe the manufacturer being Italian gives them ore flexibility re the rider's nationality.



At least among the hard-core fans, it seems like not all that bid a factor in their loyalities (didn't seem to detect a lack of support for Bayliss at Imola, for example, and I understand that Haga is a big favorite among Spanish and Italian fans).



In any case, what I DO NOT UNDERSTAND about Honda's actions is the apparant decision to blow off World Superbike -- either pulling out entirely or going with a small-scale effort. Racing has always been central to Honda's core values -- I cannot imagine old man Honda pulling out under such circumstances -- he must be spinning in his grave.
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Old 09-30-2002, 11:31 AM   #22
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Default Re: Superbike and Supersport Imola Results

>>Honda ... screwed the pooch this time.... my dog got scared and ran to my wife for comfort<<



I think I may see a pattern here -- I am not sure it was the screaming that frightened your dog



Looks to me like Honda have decided to put all their eggs in the MotoGP basket. They have a hugely talented (and expensive) line up in GP but even when Colin reportedly offered to ride 2003 WSB for 1/2 or even 1/4 of his current salary, they were too cheap.



This is what I was afraid of when the FIM decided to go with 4-strokes in GP -- the amount of money everyone is now throwing into GP has gotta come out of the racing budget someplace else, or else they gotta find a whole lot of outside sponsors to pick up the tab (and calling the shots re rider selection -- hence the pressure for riders of certain nationalities). Not sure that either Suzuki or Kawasaki will field factory teams in WSB with all their money and manpower directed to GP, I hear that Yamaha have already ruled it out. I sure would hate to see WSB end up with Factory Ducati and Aprilia Teams and a bunch of privateers -- AMA last year was bad enough, with most of the field on Supersport GSXR750s.









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Old 09-30-2002, 11:39 AM   #23
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Meh, I saw that tape. I was pretty dern wonderful, but somehow i liked the "more modern" GP bikes going at it, and it helps that Suzuka is my favorite track. Yes, I actually been to Philips Island, Suzuka, Laguna (mazda) Phoenix, Daytona, Road Atlanta, and Willow. If you haven't seen that race, you need to. If I had known it was going to be that good, I would have recorded it.
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Old 09-30-2002, 11:45 AM   #24
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motonline.com writes that Honda wants Edwards back.



Great race, sure beats watching NASCAR.
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Old 09-30-2002, 11:46 AM   #25
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I'm just guessing.... Ben Bostrom. it makes sense... he has a contract to ride an RC-51 next year, why not do it in WSB? I think he'd do ok in the Michellins, now that there seems to be such a large gap between them and Dunlop... New Bike, New Tire, More Grip, More H.P. If he can adapt his riding style to Michellin's wheels in-line style of grip, I think he'd do ok, as long as he wasn't too distracted and he kept his motivation high.
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Old 09-30-2002, 01:03 PM   #26
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Good point ole wise one.
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Old 09-30-2002, 02:35 PM   #27
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Do you think Honda is looking at the prospect of having all these talented riders in one series and thinking it could open the door for someone else due to the heavy competition among the various Honda teams?



Still, it will be sad to see the #1 plate on anything other than a Honda should Edwards not be a "Red Rider".



Congratulations Mr. Edwards!
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Old 09-30-2002, 02:41 PM   #28
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My sentiments exactly - superb racing.

Two top notch racers going all out. Yes, you might say they go 'all out' in all the races, but not like this.

It was one of the greatest races I've had the pleasure of witnessing. Edge of the coutch stuff. I'm not one to yell out during sports events, but my voice resounded through the house several times on this occasion.
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Old 09-30-2002, 03:49 PM   #29
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This was the sports event of the weekend. The second race was the most competitive and exciting race I have ever seen, Even my wife (a non rider) got excited. The passes were downright scary and I dont now how Bayliss held unto that Ducati with all that rear tire slipage.

Colin Edwards rules! Honda rules! WSB the best racing No doubt.
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Old 09-30-2002, 03:54 PM   #30
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so that explains nicky hayden's ride how??



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