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sv1000rider · 01-03-2007, 12:55 AM

Big congrats Triumph! Variety is definitely the spice of life when it comes to motorcycles. Triumph gives the V-2 cruiser/I-4 race-replica scene in the U.S. a breath of fresh air.

seruzawa · 01-03-2007, 02:19 AM

Funny how things change. Many moons ago Triumph was the conservative unable-to-change stodgy brand while the Japanese were the innovators experimenting with new ideas. Now it's the opposite with tiny Triumph coming up with the 675 while Honduh (yawn) takes the bodywork off of a scooter and calls it the greatest innovation in history. Big Ruckus is more like Big Snoozefest.

gbrummett · 01-03-2007, 02:33 AM

Congrats to Triumph

I'm hoping that Buell will wake up and smell the coffee er I mean gas and give us an all new engine and an all new design. This could mean they would have record sales as well.

BrowningBAR · 01-03-2007, 03:10 AM

What's going on with Honda? The line up is getting worse every year.

I like cruisers, standards and sportbikes, but Honda really isn't offering anything that make me want to buy anything.

Their cruisers look really plasticy (spelling?). It's really kind of odd, they almost look fake looking.

It seems they dropped the 599 for '07.

The superhawk, that everyone raves about, doesn't look like it's been in their lineup since '05 (and who knows when was the last time they updated it before that).

Their sportbikes look outdated compared to other companies (and sportbike riders are nearly as superficial ad cruiser riders).

Everyone seems to dislike the current version of the VFR and everyone expected it to be redesigned three years ago.

It almost seems like they are just moving away from producing motorcycles (I doubt that's the case, but compare Honda's line up to any other and it really seems possible/odd).

Do they really sell that many Gold Wings that they can let the rest of their line up run stale?

sarnali2 · 01-03-2007, 03:31 AM

Since Soichiro died they are moving away from motorcycls and more and more to cars unless you count step-through 90's which they sell by the gazzillion in 3rd world countries like Myanmar, Thailand and N. Dakota...

sarnali2 · 01-03-2007, 03:33 AM

Good for Triumph, I've owned 3 Hinckley Triumphs so far and they've all been fun and reliable. Excellent bikes.

ksquid · 01-03-2007, 03:37 AM

I think the key lesson for the "Harley, Stay the Course Crowd" of the GPTB is that a small company can build a modern proper engine, put it in a sportbike and beat the big 4. Aprilia is doing it with 1000 V-4 and Ducati does it routinely. But some how the GPTB says Harley can't put a great engine in the Buell.. Imagine if the Buell Firebolt had a world class engine.. Heck I bet they would sell 10 times more Buells...

Congratulations Triumph you deserve it for showing guts and working hard to produce world class products. Products that don't have to rely of marketing slogans, "mystique", or "heritage".. [i][b] OK HD Buell it's your turn to show that America is still the land of free and home of the brave

ksquid · 01-03-2007, 03:39 AM

Agreed... Seems Honda has forgot their roots and gone corporate. It's a familiar scenario i.e. the founder dies or gets set aside (Apple Steve Jobs) and the thing gets ran by Harvard MBA professional managers who have no passion for the product...

ksquid · 01-03-2007, 03:41 AM

Well said..

BrowningBAR · 01-03-2007, 03:45 AM

...except, Apple did something unheard of and brought Jobs back. Who is now looked upon as a god by Mac followers (and rightly so considering what he's done...just ignore that whole stock investigation thing).

It was really surprising since Jobs left under REALLY bad circumstances. Pirate flag and all...

01-03-2007, 12:55 AM	#1
sv1000rider Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 180	Re: Triumph Tops 10K Units Sold in the U.S. in '06. Big congrats Triumph! Variety is definitely the spice of life when it comes to motorcycles. Triumph gives the V-2 cruiser/I-4 race-replica scene in the U.S. a breath of fresh air.

01-03-2007, 02:19 AM	#2
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: Triumph Tops 10K Units Sold in the U.S. in '06. Funny how things change. Many moons ago Triumph was the conservative unable-to-change stodgy brand while the Japanese were the innovators experimenting with new ideas. Now it's the opposite with tiny Triumph coming up with the 675 while Honduh (yawn) takes the bodywork off of a scooter and calls it the greatest innovation in history. Big Ruckus is more like Big Snoozefest. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

01-03-2007, 02:33 AM	#3
gbrummett Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 512	Congrats to Triumph Congrats to Triumph I'm hoping that Buell will wake up and smell the coffee er I mean gas and give us an all new engine and an all new design. This could mean they would have record sales as well.

01-03-2007, 03:10 AM	#4
BrowningBAR Snuggles Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In a really, really, really old farmhouse Posts: 4,364	Re: Triumph Tops 10K Units Sold in the U.S. in '06. What's going on with Honda? The line up is getting worse every year. I like cruisers, standards and sportbikes, but Honda really isn't offering anything that make me want to buy anything. Their cruisers look really plasticy (spelling?). It's really kind of odd, they almost look fake looking. It seems they dropped the 599 for '07. The superhawk, that everyone raves about, doesn't look like it's been in their lineup since '05 (and who knows when was the last time they updated it before that). Their sportbikes look outdated compared to other companies (and sportbike riders are nearly as superficial ad cruiser riders). Everyone seems to dislike the current version of the VFR and everyone expected it to be redesigned three years ago. It almost seems like they are just moving away from producing motorcycles (I doubt that's the case, but compare Honda's line up to any other and it really seems possible/odd). Do they really sell that many Gold Wings that they can let the rest of their line up run stale?

01-03-2007, 03:31 AM	#5
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,132	Re: Triumph Tops 10K Units Sold in the U.S. in '06. Since Soichiro died they are moving away from motorcycls and more and more to cars unless you count step-through 90's which they sell by the gazzillion in 3rd world countries like Myanmar, Thailand and N. Dakota... __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "All the BMW riders in the room, I want you to leave. Now. Out. "

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01-03-2007, 03:33 AM	#6
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,132	Re: Triumph Tops 10K Units Sold in the U.S. in '06. Good for Triumph, I've owned 3 Hinckley Triumphs so far and they've all been fun and reliable. Excellent bikes. __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "All the BMW riders in the room, I want you to leave. Now. Out. "

01-03-2007, 03:37 AM	#7
ksquid Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: My new favorite site is CycleWorld.com Posts: 3,775	Who says a small company can't compete with proper engines I think the key lesson for the "Harley, Stay the Course Crowd" of the GPTB is that a small company can build a modern proper engine, put it in a sportbike and beat the big 4. Aprilia is doing it with 1000 V-4 and Ducati does it routinely. But some how the GPTB says Harley can't put a great engine in the Buell.. Imagine if the Buell Firebolt had a world class engine.. Heck I bet they would sell 10 times more Buells... Congratulations Triumph you deserve it for showing guts and working hard to produce world class products. Products that don't have to rely of marketing slogans, "mystique", or "heritage".. [i][b] OK HD Buell it's your turn to show that America is still the land of free and home of the brave

01-03-2007, 03:39 AM	#8
ksquid Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: My new favorite site is CycleWorld.com Posts: 3,775	Excellent Point Agreed... Seems Honda has forgot their roots and gone corporate. It's a familiar scenario i.e. the founder dies or gets set aside (Apple Steve Jobs) and the thing gets ran by Harvard MBA professional managers who have no passion for the product...

01-03-2007, 03:41 AM	#9
ksquid Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: My new favorite site is CycleWorld.com Posts: 3,775	Re: Congrats to Triumph Well said..

01-03-2007, 03:45 AM	#10
BrowningBAR Snuggles Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In a really, really, really old farmhouse Posts: 4,364	Re: Excellent Point ...except, Apple did something unheard of and brought Jobs back. Who is now looked upon as a god by Mac followers (and rightly so considering what he's done...just ignore that whole stock investigation thing). It was really surprising since Jobs left under REALLY bad circumstances. Pirate flag and all...