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Old 01-07-2005, 05:47 AM   #1
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As long as they continue to develope new models as cool as the speed3 I don't think there going anywhere. I'd love to see a smaller dispacement Tiger with just a little bit more off-road ability.



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Old 01-07-2005, 06:09 AM   #2
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Am I insane or didn't we read like three days ago that they were posting red ink to the tune of a million bucks?
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Old 01-07-2005, 06:18 AM   #3
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Please read the story before posting.
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Old 01-07-2005, 06:19 AM   #4
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What I don't want to see Triumph do is sell their bikes at premium prices. If their prices stay on par with the big four mabye they will sell a lot more bikes. For example, I'm the kind of buyer who would prefer the relaxed ergo's of a Daytona 955i or 650 over the full on race ergo's of the big four repli racers. I'm not concerned over the 10 - 15% (just numbers I pulled out of my arse, don't know what the actual difference is in performance of a Daytona 650 compared to an R6) less performance you get from the Triumph and that I'd be paying the same amout as say for an R1 or R6. I won't be willing to pay $1000 or $2000 more though. Again, not because of the performance (they have plenty for me and for the majority of street riders) but I just simply don't want to pay more when the competition sells for less (that being said I don't know if the economies of scale allow Triumph to price their bikes on par with the Japanese manufacturers).



Harley, BMW, and Ducati already do that and successfully so. But, maybe Triumph would do good to continue it's unique approach to making and selling motorcycles by being the little manufacturer who makes bikes unique to the competition but prices them the same as the competition.
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Old 01-07-2005, 06:56 AM   #5
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Old 01-07-2005, 07:30 AM   #6
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Hmmmm,....I didn't see anything stating that the Rocket III was dragging down sales. I wonder where the people posting comments about the "Red Ink" article got their info on what a complete sales dog it was.
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Old 01-07-2005, 08:34 AM   #7
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Default EBITA profits

Earnings BEFORE interest, tax, amortization....



uh huh, that's kinda like all the spending money I have BEFORE I pay my bills.



No matter... it's at least obvious that Triumph is still gonna be around and nobody should be worried on that account if they're looking at buying a new bike

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Old 01-07-2005, 08:38 AM   #8
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D'oh!
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Old 01-07-2005, 08:48 AM   #9
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FWIW, I took a test ride on a Speed 4 last year and it is an insanely great bike. And an incredible deal as well--cheaper than the Honda 599, not too far off from the FZ600 and SVS650... except with better suspension, performace, build quality, character. Too bad about those butt-ugly schnorkels. Now if those rumors of the smaller displacement 3 cyl replacement are true, I think they'll do just fine...

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Old 01-07-2005, 08:53 AM   #10
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I had heard that when the Rocket III was released, they had just about sold out the original planned production numbers. Now, from time of order to delivery, some of those always fall through. And I have two dealers close by and neither one has any in stock (of course, I'm not sure what that means either).



I think the question might be whether they can sell enough to cover development/infrastructure/production costs and make a profit. Of course, this is also ignoring the possiblity of a big tourer based on the R3 platform, which, rumor has it, is in the works.



Then again, the R3 is an image leader product, so breaking even on the thing may be the most Triumph ever hoped for anyway.
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