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Old 01-05-2005, 07:15 PM   #21
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Default Re: Triumph Seeing Red Ink

No one seems to understand that it's congress that spends the money and creates the inflation. For that matter the democrats could simply have filibustered all of Bushie's profligate spending... and they should have. I just might vote for them if they had the balls to. But they wanted all of that extra social spending, didn't they?



Nah. It's easier to do nothing, let the economy go south and then pretend that it's someone else's fault.



Blame the Pres. Blame the other party. Yadda yadda yadda. They are ALL to blame. All the republicrats.
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Old 01-05-2005, 07:43 PM   #22
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Default Triumph Seeing Red Ink

Whoa, whoa.



Triumph lost a million bucks this year? So what? At their cash flow, "losing" five million...or for that matter, making five million profit, is not significant dollars. They're not going out of business, they're just not as profitable as they should be.



A warning sign, maybe, but not a big deal in the business world.
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Old 01-05-2005, 09:35 PM   #23
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Default There Will Wlways Be an England! And, Probably a Tuiumph.

Triumph not using the triple, as its signature engine, has always boggled my mind. And, attacking the Japanese, on the 600 front, was something akin to the Charge of the Light Brigade, (But, Hey! They're Brits! They do stuff like that!).



Hindsight is 20/20 (and, who looks at their own a$$ anyway). But, a 750 triple would probably have set the world on fire, rather than the alarm clock, on snooze, like the 600 Daytona. Just the sound of the triple makes grown men cry, and audiophiles use it for a reference source. So, cash could have been grabbed, hand over fist, probably without a Daytona Triple ever being moved off its kick-stand. And, though the new 650 has me planning a trip north, to visit my closest dealer this Spring, IÂ’d probably push a team of dogs, through a lake-effect storm, if that same dealer had a 750 triple right now.



As for the Rock III, itÂ’s damn near the size of Moby **** and, to me, almost as boring. But, some people still romanticize the adventure of whaling, so if theyÂ’ve got the cash, let them sharpen their harpoons (at least, Green Peace won't get in a snit).



The jewel in the crown of the Kingdom of Bloor is the Triumph Speed Triple. The Speed-Trip is such an awesome bike that even Triumph couldn’t keep it from selling – though, God knows, they tried – with mutant headlights – and colors from Hell. If there’s one bike that lives up to Triumphs former glory, it has to be the Speed Triple. It’s spoke of in awe, and whispered-delight…Until, someone gets cheeky and Cranks-Up the Beast! Then all Hell breaks loose, and you have to shout to be heard over the engine’s wail. And, that’s probably good, because the sound of your heart-beat might scare you to death. It might not be the fastest, and DAMN it ain’t pretty, but it’s got attitude to burn...Like Churchill, with a cigar and a glass of gin in his hand.



So, Triumph lost a Million? So, What! Big Deal!



The Brits are all nuts, and it ain’t killed ‘em, yet.



After all, they got us; weÂ’re Loony as Bats.



And, Americans will buy Crazy, as long as it runs Faster-than-Hell, and doesn't break down.



So, take heart! There will always be an England - and probably a Triumph - as long as the the immortal words - Whoa! Dude! - are still in the hearts of every American (ButÂ…HeyÂ…What do I knowÂ…I own a Honda).



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Old 01-05-2005, 09:49 PM   #24
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Default The new 680 Triple

Did anyone see the new 680 Triple? It's in MCN but not in the news section. There was a link to this new "game" where they'd show you a part of a bike and ask you what it is. The last picture looked like nothing I saw, and the answers went like CBR, R6, ZX, so I thought it was perhaps a modified Japanese bike. In the end all answers were wrong, it said it was the new 680 Triple, to be featured in the latest MCN. Now I know MCN is not to be trusted but this picture looked real. The link is not there today by the way. If the new triple is indeed true, I believe it would be a smart move for Triumph to move away from the 600s and play the supersport game on its own terms.
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Old 01-05-2005, 11:17 PM   #25
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Default Is Paul Really Dead? Is the Triple Alive? Who Knows?

Even if it is a hoax, the furor it causes will probably get Triumph a lot of free press. And, it might even convice Triumph to build a small triple, if they haven't decided already.



BTW, can anyone tell me off-hand what the AMA's limit is, for triples in super-sport racing?
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Old 01-06-2005, 01:21 AM   #26
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Default it's a halo vehicle...

i don't think the rocket will sell well, however it may draw enough attention to triumph that the exercise could be worth it...



on the other hand, maybe the thing sells like hotcakes, you're right...time will tell.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:52 AM   #27
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One million? Not a big deal. I'll second (or third) the other posters who have also pointed this out. It's probably just a cyclical loss related to new development costs and the aforementioned weaker dollar. It's a cause for minor concern, but certainly not a cause for gloom and doom.



Since we've been so conditioned by public companies and the stock market to think that if a company has a momentary downturn, doesn't show a profit for two quarters in a row or, God forbid, shows a small loss for the year, that the ship is sinking. Please.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:55 AM   #28
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Default Re: Triumph Seeing Red Ink

Triumph has probably been a bit marginal for a while now. Lots of competition out there.

Sure, Rocket 3 cost them some, but a manufacturer of sporting motors needs a flagship...something to draw the eye and imagination to their product. Most have one,

this is Triumphs. Sure, people will buy within their niche..but the rocket 3 will draw attention to the Tirumph line...and to that extent is a success.
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Old 01-06-2005, 02:58 AM   #29
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Default Rocket might have a niche

A lot of folks are knocking the Rocket, and I can't say that I have seen one on the street. But I do see a fair number of Valkyries so there does seem to be a market segment for the lumbering- behemoth models.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:19 AM   #30
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Triumph makes some great bikes, but here in the Northeast have few dealers. I'd buy a Tiger in a second but the nearest shop is 50 miles from my houseand hundreds of miles from where I do most of my riding. If they just expand the dealer networks they could do a lot better.
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