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jmeyn · 11-15-2002, 04:01 PM

And then a comparo. Good for Triumph! Never give up.

Gootch · 11-15-2002, 04:02 PM

I'll wait for some real world testing reports. I remember the hype about the TT600 and the ensuing disappointment.

I ride every month with a group of Triumph guys but I ride a Honda F4. If - and only if - this bike measures up to the description, then maybe I'll be on a Triumph like the rest of the guys.

12er · 11-15-2002, 04:27 PM

Put a zig zag muffler on it and you can call it Pikachu. That or a happy Kawasaki...

Honestly other than the Daytona styled tail section it looks more Japanize than actual Japanize bikes.

I'll predict this has caught up to an F3, maybe. If its anywhere near the new line of 600's I'll be highly impressed. The big Daytona's never been a threat to the big 4 and this probably wont be any different. Reading the press release was too funny, talk about chest beating and hype. Still I wish them luck, I dig the 955 daytona and the speed triple.

zx-6r_maniac · 11-15-2002, 04:32 PM

I know it isnt. why is it more expensive than the jap mids?...triumph doesnt get it

12er · 11-15-2002, 05:01 PM

4k mile service intervals to.

Buzglyd · 11-15-2002, 05:03 PM

The labor laws most certainly drive up the price beyond the Japanese 600s. That and the fact Triumph is a much smaller company and doesn't have near the purchasing power for parts, etc. as the big Japanese companies.

Do squids understand basic economics at all?

xmike5 · 11-15-2002, 05:31 PM

The only thing that bugs me about the styling is the tail lights. They look out of date and squished together.

KPaulCook · 11-15-2002, 05:45 PM

You make a good points Buzz Although I admire Triumph for trying to compete head to head with the Japanese, it probably isn't the smartest thing to do. I think a small triple would of been better i.e. chararcter and uniqueness vs the inline 4s.

seruzawa · 11-15-2002, 06:02 PM

Well, actually Triumph prices are a bit higher, but not substantially so. I was looking at 2002 model prices and for any particular class of bike the Triumphs are only a few hundred dollars more. A Daytona 955 is about the same as a Yamaha R1. Pretty close anyhow. When you're talking 10Gs a few hundred either way doesn't mean much.

As if anyone complaining about the "inferior" Triumph could even come close to tapping the potential of either bike.

Look how much more people pay for a BMW 1150GS. It's probably a better bike than the comparable Triumph , but it's certainly not $4K better. I hear the BMW's own R1150R is more stable on dirt roads than the GS anyhow, and the R1150R doesn't break frames. Suzuki's V-Strom is another $1800 cheaper than the Triumph, but it has only a one year warranty, the Triumph has a two year warranty.

You can't put a price on appeal anyhow. People like what they like. Logic doesn't much enter into it.

itchface · 11-15-2002, 07:54 PM

Sung to the Frere Jacques (Brother John) tune:

Just like Honda,

Just like Kawi,

Inline four,

Such a bore,

No imagination,

Just a recreation,

A copy,

Blasphamy.

More displacement,

Which would have meant,

Much more torque,

Bloor's a dork,

Should have been a triple,

Would have hardened nipple,

But no luck,

What the fruck?

This song must come,

To a close now,

Time for bed,

Turn off head,

Writing not terrific,

Very soporific

I must snore,

Rhyme no more.

11-15-2002, 04:01 PM	#1
jmeyn Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 780	Let's see a first ride! And then a comparo. Good for Triumph! Never give up.

11-15-2002, 04:02 PM	#2
Gootch Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 7	Re: 2003 Triumph Daytona 600 I'll wait for some real world testing reports. I remember the hype about the TT600 and the ensuing disappointment. I ride every month with a group of Triumph guys but I ride a Honda F4. If - and only if - this bike measures up to the description, then maybe I'll be on a Triumph like the rest of the guys.

11-15-2002, 04:27 PM	#3
12er Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SF Posts: 2,702	Re: 2003 Triumph Daytona 600 Put a zig zag muffler on it and you can call it Pikachu. That or a happy Kawasaki... Honestly other than the Daytona styled tail section it looks more Japanize than actual Japanize bikes. I'll predict this has caught up to an F3, maybe. If its anywhere near the new line of 600's I'll be highly impressed. The big Daytona's never been a threat to the big 4 and this probably wont be any different. Reading the press release was too funny, talk about chest beating and hype. Still I wish them luck, I dig the 955 daytona and the speed triple.

11-15-2002, 04:32 PM	#4
zx-6r_maniac Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 52	Is it better than the japanese 600's? I know it isnt. why is it more expensive than the jap mids?...triumph doesnt get it

11-15-2002, 05:01 PM	#5
12er Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SF Posts: 2,702	Re: Is it better than the japanese 600's? 4k mile service intervals to.

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11-15-2002, 05:03 PM	#6
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,138	Re: Is it better than the japanese 600's? The labor laws most certainly drive up the price beyond the Japanese 600s. That and the fact Triumph is a much smaller company and doesn't have near the purchasing power for parts, etc. as the big Japanese companies. Do squids understand basic economics at all? __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

11-15-2002, 05:31 PM	#7
xmike5 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 29	Re: 2003 Triumph Daytona 600 The only thing that bugs me about the styling is the tail lights. They look out of date and squished together.

11-15-2002, 05:45 PM	#8
KPaulCook Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,756	You are correct BuzzLightYear You make a good points Buzz Although I admire Triumph for trying to compete head to head with the Japanese, it probably isn't the smartest thing to do. I think a small triple would of been better i.e. chararcter and uniqueness vs the inline 4s.

11-15-2002, 06:02 PM	#9
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: Is it better than the japanese 600's? Well, actually Triumph prices are a bit higher, but not substantially so. I was looking at 2002 model prices and for any particular class of bike the Triumphs are only a few hundred dollars more. A Daytona 955 is about the same as a Yamaha R1. Pretty close anyhow. When you're talking 10Gs a few hundred either way doesn't mean much. As if anyone complaining about the "inferior" Triumph could even come close to tapping the potential of either bike. Look how much more people pay for a BMW 1150GS. It's probably a better bike than the comparable Triumph , but it's certainly not $4K better. I hear the BMW's own R1150R is more stable on dirt roads than the GS anyhow, and the R1150R doesn't break frames. Suzuki's V-Strom is another $1800 cheaper than the Triumph, but it has only a one year warranty, the Triumph has a two year warranty. You can't put a price on appeal anyhow. People like what they like. Logic doesn't much enter into it. __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

11-15-2002, 07:54 PM	#10
itchface Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 179	Re: 2003 Triumph Daytona 600 Sung to the Frere Jacques (Brother John) tune: Just like Honda, Just like Kawi, Inline four, Such a bore, No imagination, Just a recreation, A copy, Blasphamy. More displacement, Which would have meant, Much more torque, Bloor's a dork, Should have been a triple, Would have hardened nipple, But no luck, What the fruck? This song must come, To a close now, Time for bed, Turn off head, Writing not terrific, Very soporific I must snore, Rhyme no more.