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abhorred · 01-20-2001, 09:37 AM

Great, now all you R1 morons can obsolete your manhood extensions that you never learned to ride and get longer ones. Oh goody. Go Moto-wars. Capitalism and marketing at its best. So cool.

CADdriver · 01-20-2001, 10:06 AM

Great to see these power and handling wars. R1 or GSX-R1000 it doesn't matter, can only use about 25% of the machines' capability on the road anyway. I envy those who can fold themselves up like pretzels and ride these things. Think maybe Suzuki can put that engine in something "real" man can ride and enjoy. Chuck the Bandit's 1200 engine and replace it with the 1000, then I'll be really impressed.

RobGixxer750 · 01-20-2001, 10:16 AM

The 929 is touted as the worst headshaker that is made by any manufacturer these days. The front end chatter from that bike is horrible from all accounts I have heard, read, seen.

People confuse steering dampers for an easy fix for poor bike geometry. I can't explain it well, so if someone would like to, or better, MO, please do.

Rob

Bandit1216 · 01-20-2001, 10:16 AM

It's so easy to jack the B12 engine up into the mid-150rwhp range that there's no need to wish for a different mill/different platform- you can have that bike today for less than the cost of the new Gixxer.

That said, I think the GSXR1000 is a helluva machine; it'll be great fun to see what comes along in 2003 or so to knock it down a spot on the food chain.

Ed

miket · 01-20-2001, 11:17 AM

I wish the people who not only wouldn't buy this bike, but wouldn't buy any similar bike would push off. Your unfavourable comparisons between this and you brother-in-law's 1978 XL250 reflect on all openclass sportsbikes made in the last ten years. They may be relevant but they're not specific and they add nothing usefull.

Sounds to me like it's time to claim back my ZX-12-R deposit and amble down to my local Suzuki dealer. What did the man say in Idependance Day? "Oh man! I gotta get me one o' these!"

Skorpion23 · 01-20-2001, 11:27 AM

For my money, I'd say that the boys from Hamamatsu are looking to kick some serious ass. Sign me up for the Express Elevator to Depravity.

RobGixxer750 · 01-20-2001, 12:34 PM

Suzuki comes out on top in a big way. The RC51 makes up for some of it's lower horsepower, with a lot of torque, but not enough to bridge the gap. An RC51 bone stock is around 123 or so rwhp, as opposed to 145-150 rwhp on the gixxer1000.

Rob

CyberJonesy · 01-20-2001, 01:01 PM

The Suzuki GSX-R1000 will be undoubtly one of the greatest bikes for Y2K1 but with all the hype put into it's publicity I am quite afraid it will lure the eye of squidish newbies! Oh please may god spare my virgin eyes of seeing one of those marvels wrecked up by the side of the road... especially if it was one of my friends on it! Oh and before I forget someone tells Minime that we know he loves the new gixxer and all but... don't you guys think this kind of wheelieing publicity for suzuki in the middle of downtown is rather heart breaking for us who can't afford to change bikes yet!

darkspy · 01-20-2001, 01:04 PM

The atmosphere is too calm in here. Anybody wanna take bets on when the sportbike/cruiser wars will begin?

Seriously though, I agree this bike is more than even advanced street riders will be able to use. Of course, I predict it will be a landslide success. To each his own. In 10 years, you KNOW this thing will be considered a beginners bike. The scary thing is not all the people that will buy it new. The really scary thing is all the penniless high school students that will be buying it in 10 years. Problems for another day, I guess.

john · 01-20-2001, 01:12 PM

headshake is a consequence of a bike's wheelbase, as well as steering head geometry. i have heard the exact opposite about the 929, everything i have read said that it is very well composed at high speeds. People who screw with the suspension can easily induce massive amounts of headshake by screwing with any bike though.

01-20-2001, 09:37 AM	#1
abhorred Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3	Re: Street Test: GSX-R1000 Great, now all you R1 morons can obsolete your manhood extensions that you never learned to ride and get longer ones. Oh goody. Go Moto-wars. Capitalism and marketing at its best. So cool.

01-20-2001, 10:06 AM	#2
CADdriver Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8	Re: Street Test: GSX-R1000 Great to see these power and handling wars. R1 or GSX-R1000 it doesn't matter, can only use about 25% of the machines' capability on the road anyway. I envy those who can fold themselves up like pretzels and ride these things. Think maybe Suzuki can put that engine in something "real" man can ride and enjoy. Chuck the Bandit's 1200 engine and replace it with the 1000, then I'll be really impressed.

01-20-2001, 10:16 AM	#3
RobGixxer750 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 104	haha, no offense The 929 is touted as the worst headshaker that is made by any manufacturer these days. The front end chatter from that bike is horrible from all accounts I have heard, read, seen. People confuse steering dampers for an easy fix for poor bike geometry. I can't explain it well, so if someone would like to, or better, MO, please do. Rob

01-20-2001, 10:16 AM	#4
Bandit1216 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6	Re: Street Test: GSX-R1000 It's so easy to jack the B12 engine up into the mid-150rwhp range that there's no need to wish for a different mill/different platform- you can have that bike today for less than the cost of the new Gixxer. That said, I think the GSXR1000 is a helluva machine; it'll be great fun to see what comes along in 2003 or so to knock it down a spot on the food chain. Ed

01-20-2001, 11:17 AM	#5
miket Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10	Re: Street Test: GSX-R1000 I wish the people who not only wouldn't buy this bike, but wouldn't buy any similar bike would push off. Your unfavourable comparisons between this and you brother-in-law's 1978 XL250 reflect on all openclass sportsbikes made in the last ten years. They may be relevant but they're not specific and they add nothing usefull. Sounds to me like it's time to claim back my ZX-12-R deposit and amble down to my local Suzuki dealer. What did the man say in Idependance Day? "Oh man! I gotta get me one o' these!"

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01-20-2001, 11:27 AM	#6
Skorpion23 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 8	Re: Street Test: GSX-R1000 For my money, I'd say that the boys from Hamamatsu are looking to kick some serious ass. Sign me up for the Express Elevator to Depravity.

01-20-2001, 12:34 PM	#7
RobGixxer750 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 104	No contest Suzuki comes out on top in a big way. The RC51 makes up for some of it's lower horsepower, with a lot of torque, but not enough to bridge the gap. An RC51 bone stock is around 123 or so rwhp, as opposed to 145-150 rwhp on the gixxer1000. Rob

01-20-2001, 01:01 PM	#8
CyberJonesy Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 19	It doth not bode well! The Suzuki GSX-R1000 will be undoubtly one of the greatest bikes for Y2K1 but with all the hype put into it's publicity I am quite afraid it will lure the eye of squidish newbies! Oh please may god spare my virgin eyes of seeing one of those marvels wrecked up by the side of the road... especially if it was one of my friends on it! Oh and before I forget someone tells Minime that we know he loves the new gixxer and all but... don't you guys think this kind of wheelieing publicity for suzuki in the middle of downtown is rather heart breaking for us who can't afford to change bikes yet!

01-20-2001, 01:04 PM	#9
darkspy Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 17	Re: Street Test: GSX-R1000 The atmosphere is too calm in here. Anybody wanna take bets on when the sportbike/cruiser wars will begin? Seriously though, I agree this bike is more than even advanced street riders will be able to use. Of course, I predict it will be a landslide success. To each his own. In 10 years, you KNOW this thing will be considered a beginners bike. The scary thing is not all the people that will buy it new. The really scary thing is all the penniless high school students that will be buying it in 10 years. Problems for another day, I guess.

01-20-2001, 01:12 PM	#10
john Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 356	Re: haha, no offense headshake is a consequence of a bike's wheelbase, as well as steering head geometry. i have heard the exact opposite about the 929, everything i have read said that it is very well composed at high speeds. People who screw with the suspension can easily induce massive amounts of headshake by screwing with any bike though. __________________ You shouldnt wave at a guy with no hands, he might think you are **y. Look at what i got, mother**er.