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Old 09-15-2003, 07:41 AM   #41
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190HP? Where did you get that?
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:43 AM   #42
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Default Re: What's up with Suzuki's 2004 superbike?

When I went on their website I got a pop-up window saying they are coming soon, please be patient.
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:42 AM   #43
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32.5" is lower than their older DR650 thumper, which could be ultimately lowered to 33" with a factory adjustment. Given the way that the shocks compress on these dual purpose bikes, the effective seat height will be even lower once you are on board. I only have a 30" inseam, but can handle 33" seat heights easily. It may take some time if you are transitioning from a cruiser, but this is a good compromise between long suspension travel for rough roads/trails and street riding. I want this bike!
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:47 AM   #44
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Default Re: What's up with Suzuki's 2004 superbike?

"Second, you just KNOW that Suzook is only updating all these models for their 41st Anniversary to try and eke out a place in the market to compete against the new Sportsters. Right? Um, guys?"



Of course. That's why they have that hideous black and orange GSX-R600.



Who the hell is doing Suzuki's styling? Is it a mole who is trying to bring them down from the inside? Jesus. They need to work on that.
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Old 09-15-2003, 12:38 PM   #45
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Default Mladin is just the Dale Earnhardt of the AMA i.e. don't blame Matt

You guys who dog Mladin amaze me. The guy is awesome. He did try MotoGP (the big leags) a long time ago (See AMA soup for Mladin interview)

and it didn't work out cause of the wrong team and he was young. So stop ragging on him. Even if you buy your crap about NSCAR every series needs a bad guy. So don't blame Mladin for everthing. Motorcycle racing is not something that will ever appeal to a large segment of the population of the U.S. Unlike Europe very few folks ride street motorcycles.

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Old 09-15-2003, 02:43 PM   #46
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Default Re: What's up with Suzuki's 2004 superbike?

Isn't the VZ1600 just a rebadged Kawasaki Mean Streak with a different rear fender? Is there anything different or otherwise unique about it versus the Streak?
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Old 09-15-2003, 03:33 PM   #47
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Default Re: What's up with Suzuki's 2004 superbike?

Unless Kawi puts the 1600 motor in it for '04, then the Kawi's 1500 lump will be the only 'real' difference that I can see. Last I checked, the Kawi site wasn't updated with the '04 specs for the Mean Streak... so it too could get the 1600 mill. I'm guessing it will.



This is essentially a rebadging otherwise.



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Old 09-15-2003, 04:03 PM   #48
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Yes, hooray for beginner bikes!



Fun is good. I'm looking forward to enjoying a beginner bike someday when I have enough cash, and I'll probably enjoy it for more than six months!



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Old 09-15-2003, 05:29 PM   #49
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Default New Kawasuki MeanMarauder

I was thinking the same thing!

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Old 09-15-2003, 07:50 PM   #50
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Suzuki is simply taking good ideas that Honda had originally, and making them successful (ie Honda Hawk-->SV650; Honda Transalp-->DL650. Too bad Honda gave up on their original concepts, or never thought them worth the effort to truly upgrade their specs. Way to go Suzuki! The DL650 is the only adventure touring bike out there that makes sense in the real world, if that includes any type of rough terrain. The larger adventure tourers are great road bikes, period.
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