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2008 BMW HP2 Sport: First Ride

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acecycleins · 12-19-2007, 12:48 PM

Just like my current BMW, it will take me 17yrs to afford it. I figure a $20k bike will be an affordable $4500 by then. Cool bike, though. Can't wait to see them in the FX race @ Daytona in the spring.

longride · 12-20-2007, 07:29 AM

If this bike comes in at 22G or a lofty 25G, that would make it essentially twice as expensive as any other liter bike out there. I'm sure it is a fine bike, but if I could have one BMW or one ZX-10 AND on Hayabusa for the same coin, I would say the Beemer comes up a bit short. These are not cruisers here. These bikes win or lose on their performance per buck, and when it's two to one in favor of everything else, I can't see why anyone would buy this bike.

seruzawa · 12-20-2007, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by longride

If this bike comes in at 22G or a lofty 25G, that would make it essentially twice as expensive as any other liter bike out there. I'm sure it is a fine bike, but if I could have one BMW or one ZX-10 AND on Hayabusa for the same coin, I would say the Beemer comes up a bit short. These are not cruisers here. These bikes win or lose on their performance per buck, and when it's two to one in favor of everything else, I can't see why anyone would buy this bike.

You're just asking for it aren't you?

Kenneth_Moore · 12-20-2007, 07:56 AM

I'm with Kirk: it will be interesting to see how this bike does at Daytona.

It's interesting; as I read the first couple of paragraphs of the article, it seemed like you could swap HD for BMW and it would be just as accurate.

What a crappy looking LCD display on the bike! Did they steal it from an old Gameboy or something? There is no excuse for that with today's LCD technology.

Nice article and photos, Pete and Fonzie! The sheer beauty of the area, combined with shearing off the pucks on the heads of that BMW at the track, must have made for quite a trip!

longride · 12-20-2007, 08:04 AM

"It's interesting; as I read the first couple of paragraphs of the article, it seemed like you could swap HD for BMW and it would be just as accurate."

I think the major difference, is that BMW is trying to sell a bike based on performance, and Harley does not. IMO cruiser hae nothing to do with any performace criteria, but with sportbikes, that's all they have.

sachiwilson · 12-20-2007, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa

You're just asking for it aren't you?

Yeah, that was definitely bait. Perhaps unintentional, but still!

Kenneth_Moore · 12-20-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by longride

"It's interesting; as I read the first couple of paragraphs of the article, it seemed like you could swap HD for BMW and it would be just as accurate."

I think the major difference, is that BMW is trying to sell a bike based on performance, and Harley does not. IMO cruiser hae nothing to do with any performace criteria, but with sportbikes, that's all they have.

I see your point and agree, but the reference was more regarding the "cache" of owning a BMW, the "exclusivity," and the willingness of the buyers to "pay a premium."

longride · 12-20-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sachiwilson

Yeah, that was definitely bait. Perhaps unintentional, but still!

Sorry, but I was well within the posting rules and there is nothing you guys can do about it.

sachiwilson · 12-20-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by longride

I think the major difference, is that BMW is trying to sell a bike based on performance, and Harley does not.

Oh absolutely not. It is quite obviously designed to appeal to people who love boxer engines (very different in feel and "soul" from an inline four or V-twin). And given the comments about riding comfort it is also, it seems to me, apparent that BMW knows that the riders it markets to will not want to suffer while riding it.

The market may not be huge but BMW will definitely use that technology in its "vanilla" (ha) offerings.

12-19-2007, 12:26 PM	#1
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12-19-2007, 12:48 PM	#2
acecycleins Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,781	Just like my current BMW, it will take me 17yrs to afford it. I figure a $20k bike will be an affordable $4500 by then. Cool bike, though. Can't wait to see them in the FX race @ Daytona in the spring. __________________ Do you really understand what the term insurance means? Insurance: a form of risk management primarily used to hedge against the risk of a contingent loss. Health insurance is risk vs loss Mr Obama! What you're selling is a lifestyle product to be taxed- A$$hat!

12-20-2007, 07:29 AM	#3
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 9,649	If this bike comes in at 22G or a lofty 25G, that would make it essentially twice as expensive as any other liter bike out there. I'm sure it is a fine bike, but if I could have one BMW or one ZX-10 AND on Hayabusa for the same coin, I would say the Beemer comes up a bit short. These are not cruisers here. These bikes win or lose on their performance per buck, and when it's two to one in favor of everything else, I can't see why anyone would buy this bike. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

12-20-2007, 07:56 AM	#5
Kenneth_Moore Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: VIsiting the GIft Shop in the Pit of DIspair Posts: 5,569	I'm with Kirk: it will be interesting to see how this bike does at Daytona. It's interesting; as I read the first couple of paragraphs of the article, it seemed like you could swap HD for BMW and it would be just as accurate. What a crappy looking LCD display on the bike! Did they steal it from an old Gameboy or something? There is no excuse for that with today's LCD technology. Nice article and photos, Pete and Fonzie! The sheer beauty of the area, combined with shearing off the pucks on the heads of that BMW at the track, must have made for quite a trip! __________________ The Internet doesn't make you stupid, it just makes your stupidity more accessible to others.

12-20-2007, 08:04 AM	#6
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 9,649	"It's interesting; as I read the first couple of paragraphs of the article, it seemed like you could swap HD for BMW and it would be just as accurate." I think the major difference, is that BMW is trying to sell a bike based on performance, and Harley does not. IMO cruiser hae nothing to do with any performace criteria, but with sportbikes, that's all they have. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

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