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Old 08-12-2008, 08:07 AM   #11
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Ken that's a pretty audacious statement..I hope you're right
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:21 AM   #12
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It's a damn shame our country has come to the point where this is the prevailing opinion. I, however, believe in the US and our ability to improve ourselves. I don't think we're doomed to descend into a society of haves and have-nots, whose only credibility in the world comes from our armed forces. I think things are going to get better.
If our profligate spending, both military and social, doesn't bankrupt us first. The problem is that both major parties are dedicated to ruinous spending policies and are in love with the use of force against their constituents. Many of us just want to be left alone and are tired of being tormented by the politicians and the many, mostly phony, crises they promote. The only real crisis is the one of financial mismanagement and in that instance neither party offers anything but more goodies, more mismanagement and more of the same that got us here. Neither a corrupt Chicago machine politician nor a corrupt scandal-ridden old boy are going to fix that.
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:43 AM   #13
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I hope you're right
I usually am. In a leftist sort of way.
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:48 PM   #14
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All you have to do is show up and be able to speak coherently.
Just wondering how many in this thread voted for him(Bush)? And are also going to jump on the same band wagon 8yrs later.
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Old 08-12-2008, 08:52 PM   #15
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[quote=seruzawa;191152]The only real crisis is the one of financial mismanagement and in that instance neither party offers anything but more goodies, more mismanagement and more of the same that got us here.[quote]


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Old 08-12-2008, 09:50 PM   #16
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Just wondering how many in this thread voted for him(Bush)? And are also going to jump on the same band wagon 8yrs later.
I'm a Libertarian. Didn't vote for Bush either time. I did get a huge chuckle out of the Demos losing both times, though. The Gore loss was fun to watch, but in '04 watching James Carville twisting, twitching and sweating live at 2am on CNN on election night was also a damn fine time.

If you vote for either party you are just asking for the same stupidity.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:54 PM   #17
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I'm a Libertarian. Didn't vote for Bush either time. I did get a huge chuckle out of the Demos losing both times, though. The Gore loss was fun to watch, but in '04 watching James Carville twisting, twitching and sweating live at 2am on CNN on election night was also a damn fine time.

If you vote for either party you are just asking for the same stupidity.
I'm in Utah. It doesn't matter how I vote. Utah always goes 65-35 to the Republican. Expect it to go 75-25 this time.

But it's all pointless. Zod will use time-warp technology to ensure a 92% landslide. Soon many things will change for squishy Terrans.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:20 PM   #18
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I'm in Utah. It doesn't matter how I vote. Utah always goes 65-35 to the Republican. Expect it to go 75-25 this time.

But it's all pointless. Zod will use time-warp technology to ensure a 92% landslide. Soon many things will change for squishy Terrans.
Don't make me come over to Utah with a handful of Hula Hoops (tm).
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