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Old 11-01-2001, 03:32 AM   #11
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Default Re: A BMW does not cost twice as much...

A 325i that is decently but not oppulently equipped can be had for around $28k. Worth the $3k over a V6 accord? you betcha!
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Old 11-01-2001, 03:50 AM   #12
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I might be raining on Indian's parade, and perhaps their motives are genuine, but I doubt it. I am almost convinced that its a marketing exploitation of the situation. They get good PR, people give them thanks, people get softer in their attitude about higher prices. Is all that worth $225k? sure as hell is.
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Old 11-01-2001, 04:01 AM   #13
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yet almost everybody except people who own them think they cost a lot more than they do. I guess that says BMW's marketing dept. is almost as clever as their engineering dept. The only down side to it is that some people think I drive a BMW as an "expensive" status symbol and that has NOTHING to do with it, in fact, mine is hardly an "expensive" car by today's standards with run-of-the-mill SUVs and even some minivans costing more!
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Old 11-01-2001, 10:06 AM   #14
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Hey, if their marketing department improves their bottom line, improves their image, and gets money to charities that need it, while selling motorcycles to people who are willing to pay the asking price- who doesn't win here?



If everybody gains, everybody is happy, and the motorycle buyers who foot the bill don't feel took, what is the problem? I sure don't see one.
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Old 11-01-2001, 10:36 AM   #15
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Yeah, but regardless of ulterior motives, $225k to the Fire Department or the Red Cross is still $225k to the Fire Department or the Red Cross.
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Old 11-01-2001, 11:55 AM   #16
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I have a question. What about operating costs? I bet BMW parts are more expensive than Honda... Is this a true statement?

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Old 11-01-2001, 02:49 PM   #17
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Lets stop calling them "Indian", shall we? I don't care if they got the legal right to the name through some highly questionable legal action, they're NOT Indian. Weren't they the "California Motorcycle Company" before?



Anyhow, I agree with the posters above: I'm sure it eats into but doesn't eliminate, their profit margin on the bikes. At $23K? They've GOT to have a higher margin than $1K. So... somebody is willing (and people are) to pay lots of extra money for a Harley clone with big fenders - and CMC donates a grand of each sale to the appropriate charities... good for them. So it might be a marketing gimmick... so what? It's still money to the Red Cross and NYCFD. I may not like the company (and I don't) or their product (it's pretty but still an even more-expensive H-D) but it's a good gesture on their part.
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Old 11-01-2001, 02:59 PM   #18
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in many instances, the parts prices are comparable, as are most parts prices for most automobiles. one thing i noticed with my bmw automobiles is the increased lifespan, compared to asian makes, with a lower maintainence $$ outlay. but we are discussing motorbikes, not cars, so get back to bikes, you knuckleheads !!
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Old 11-01-2001, 03:46 PM   #19
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Default calling Indian Indian

Should we quit calling Triumphs Triumphs? After all, Hinckley Triumph just bought the name to the old Meriden Triumph. Otherwise unrelated.



On the other hand, Hinckley Triumph from the very beginning made their own engines...
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Old 11-01-2001, 07:27 PM   #20
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Triumphs never used S&S motors and CCM frames......face it, Indian is just another BigDog or Titan.....purely a partsbin catalog bike. They exploited the name Indian, trying to build on a heritage of which they did not partake nor try to carry on, just make money off of other people's sweat and heartaches.
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