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Old 09-25-2001, 06:50 PM   #11
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Default Re: We Need AIRBAG RIDING SUITS as soon as possible

You can use your reasoning to ride in nothing but a Speed-O. The fact is, the more protective gear you wear, the greater the percentage of potential accidents you can survive. An airbag-vest isn't a guarantee, but it does improve the odds a bit.
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Old 09-25-2001, 06:56 PM   #12
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Default Re: Just the facts,

Just for the record, in my town, 90% of GSXR riders wear shorts and Oakleys--just like the 90% of cruiser riders. No one motorcycle population is to blame for the lack of gear.



In my driver's ed class way back in 10th grade, our teacher made us watch Highway Patrol footage of fatal accident scenes to show what happens when people don't wear seat belts. It was gruesome, but effective. I always buckle up now because of those mental images. If there was mandatory motorcycle training that included photographs of what happens to people who crash without a full-face helmet, I think that you'd see a lot more Arais and Shoeis on the road.
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Old 09-25-2001, 07:53 PM   #13
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Default Just the facts...From Texas

In the first year following the repeal of the mandatory helmet law in Texas, motorcycle fatalities increased by about 60%. Sound scary? Well fatalities rose but so did the number of riders on the road. More specifically, the largest portion of deaths came from the people who had chosen to mothball their bikes when 'The Man' forced the use of helmets, but who again took up the sport, without any additional training or refresher courses, as soon as helmets were no longer the rule.



Those who take up or put down being bikers to make a statement are not doing our community any good at all. I am not in favor of killing off the dumb bikers, but we would be better off without being associated with these poser bikers, dead or alive.
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Old 09-25-2001, 08:07 PM   #14
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Default Alcohol

Drinking is associated with 50 something percent of motorcycle related fatalities. I do not choose to partake in alcoholic beverages of any kind. That is my choice. It is not shared by many that I know. They talk responsibility beforehand, but I inevitably hear of at least one individual riding home impaired by 2-15 beverages if there is a ride involving a bar.



Hey, the bar is not what I am looking for anyway. The road is the place for sobriety, not inebriated risk-taking.
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Old 09-25-2001, 09:58 PM   #15
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Default Here is a pic of that!!!!

Just go on to ROTTEN.COM and click on the image titled Motorcycle. The guy obviously landed on his chin, due to the fact that it is not there anymore!

(Look at this BEFORE you eat!!!)
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Old 09-26-2001, 04:59 AM   #16
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Default Re: Here is a pic of that!!!!

I believe that the picture that you refer to has been debunked as a non-motorcycle related injury.


One account says that the victim in the photograph bit down on a blasting cap, either as part of a dare, or in a mis-guided attempt to discover whether the blasting cap was servicable.


Either way, I believe that a good full face helmet would have prevented the injury. Had the victim been wearing an Arai Quantum, he wouldn't have been able to get the blasting cap in his mouth.
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Old 09-26-2001, 05:48 AM   #17
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Default It's not just the motorcyclists drunk...

in those 50% of "alcohol related" fatalities. Recently a drunk cage driver here was sentenced to 7 years in prison for killing a sober Harley rider. But he only got the 7 years because he had a terrible record and should have been off the road long ago. We need to see more verdicts like that.



I think the lack of experience touched on in the previous post is a big factor too. Though sometimes your number is simply up, there are ways to recognize inebriated cage drivers in advance and stay out of their way. But it takes either training or years of experience that hone your instincts. Too many riders are out there who have neither one, both young squids and middle-age boomers who've decided they want a motorcycle. It won't get better until we train the newbies how to survive on the road, presuming they're interested.
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Old 09-26-2001, 06:44 AM   #18
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Default As soon as you leave seat,pegs,handlebars it'd inflate

...leaving the rider protected inside an inflated ball.

Another approach, I call SmartBag technology. Only the parts of the rider about to contact something painful would activate a local bag on the affected body part. A SmartBag equipped suit would not look that different than the Helimot red leather tuxedo I usually wear.

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Old 09-26-2001, 06:49 AM   #19
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Default Re: Just the facts,

A new comprehensive study is long overdue but so is requiring exam questions on drivers exams for non motorcyclists concerning motorcyclists since the AMA booklets cite that 75% of all accidents are the cars fault and the most common excuse is they didn't see us.



I believe Mandatory Helmet Laws are a must. I could give you many reasons but suffice it to say if you have any brain at all you should protect it.



But as far as images go that many readers have commented about perhaps the AMA could start a program to convince Police Departments to stop having their officers ride with an open face helment and basically no other protective gear. Bad example to others. We can't even wear it if we pay for it ourselves. Something to do with the public would be scarred of a fully protected officer. One Deputy I know of is having his seventh facial surgery to rebuild his face after a van T-boned him. The doctor believes a full face would have stopped this.



So to the AMA how can you really harp on safety equipment and accidents when most Police Departments put public image before MotorOfficer Safety???
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Old 09-26-2001, 06:59 AM   #20
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Default You Will Be Old Too ... If You're Lucky! (smart helps)

Another thing that can happen is, you could crash your plane and be comatose for months with brain damage and then have to learn all over again how to ride a motorcycle. I did.

I've almost forgotten the brain damage. Just on principle I'd guess I didn't get smarter by having this happen. That's why I wear all the protective gear and would even suggest improving it.
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