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Old 01-30-2007, 07:55 AM   #1
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Default Re: Oregon Bill Would Keep Kids Under 12 Off ATVs.

So there will be fewer guys/gals saying "... yeah my dad put me a machine at....". One side will say look at the injury, death and economic damage we have prevented. The other will see social control based on statistics and the good of the whole. The justification for societal control over the role of the family, the destruction of the individual. Oh no to much coffee.... so what was the incident that sparked this legislation? Did it involve a lack of parental control? A lawsuit blaming someone for an others action? What's the rest of the story?



We're never going to have a 125 or 250 Moto GP Champion if this trend continues......
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:04 AM   #2
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But it is for "the children"!
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:23 AM   #3
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"Cuz we know how to raise your kids better than you!"
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:25 AM   #4
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wake me up if it passes. next thing you know they'll make it illegal to sell cigarettes to kids. Wait...
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:30 AM   #5
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They're about to make it illegal to spank your kid so you better get some beatings in now.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:31 AM   #6
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When I was 12 I was 5"10" and weighed 155 lbs., was into baseball, gymnastics, and just about every other athletic activity on the planet. I had the reflexes of a cat. I was bigger, stronger and in better condition than most of the putzs I see at the MSF classes. Put us under glass, keep us there untill we're 18 and then let us live. All will be right with the world. I saw last night on the tube where Spartan children began their military training at 7.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:32 AM   #7
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It's already Illegal in Arkansas to allow a child under the age of 7years to ride passenger on a motorcycle. No allowance for height or weight, Parent's ability, harness, etc.



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Old 01-30-2007, 08:46 AM   #8
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It's already illegal. If your kid ever tells the DCFS that you smacked him, just see how fast you end up in court.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:48 AM   #9
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Okay; I love kids as much as anyone, and I hate to see a kid get hurt in any way, by anything. But my first wife and I raised 6 boys and a girl, and we didn't lose any of them, nor did we wrap them in padding and tie them to the doorknob.



It is PARENTS' duty and responsibility to take care of their kids damnit. It's not the job of some snotty fart in a state capitol. If and when the parent(s) fail in their duty, and if and when they do so by blatantly ignoring the child's safety or welfare, then, by God, punish them for "child endangerment" or some other legally definable crime.



Otherwise get to Hell oout of the family's affairs!



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Old 01-30-2007, 09:18 AM   #10
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Just think of this as Tier 1.



Tier 2, you get to sit on the machine...without it running of course.
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