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Old 11-29-2006, 11:20 AM   #11
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:46 AM   #12
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I'm so tired of hearing about this helmet debate when the solution is SO simple. If you don't have enough brains to be wearing a helmet and sustaining head injuries while riding, then you are required to have extra insurance. If not, then the treatment you receive will only be covered up to a certain dollar amount--kind of like how it works even if you ARE wearing a helmet...which is how it works now--doh!
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:54 AM   #13
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No helmet = Darwin in action. Glad to see "some" people are actually wearing their lids... I know all the arguments, but all you have to see is one person's brainpan shaved open and their gray matter all over the road (been there, seen that) to know a little DOT & Snell is worth a case of helmet hair. Personal choice is the only valid argument, but given the rise in power and performance of modern machines I'm happy to don a helmet to rides such exciting vehicles.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:56 AM   #14
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Default Re: U.S. DOT Announces 2006 Seatbelt & Motorcycle Helmet Use Stats.

How about if you're not wearing a helmet they just drag you off to the side of the road and go through your pockets....
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:31 PM   #15
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I just don't get this not wearing a helmet thing. It's amazing how uncomfortable people will make themselves just to prove their point, or stupidity.

I like to tell my MSF students that if all of that wind in your face was such a good thing you would see a lot people driving their cars down the freeway at 70 mph with their head sticking out the window like a dog.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:29 PM   #16
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even our dog will pull his head back in the car if you go over about 50 mph... wind is too much.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:54 PM   #17
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Maybe they like the bug spatter.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:35 PM   #18
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I would use a penalty formula that included the vehicle's weight and velocity. Therefore an SUV weighting 6,000lbs doing 20 over the speed limit would get the same fine as a sportbike weighing 400lbs and doing more like 300mph.



That demonstrates the relative dangers of speeding bikes vs cars, light trucks, SUVs, etc. There is so much propaganda out there that people completely overrate the danger of a bike doing 100 vs a Camry doing 80. Part of this is the purposeful concentration by law enforcement and various municipalities and States on lazy, but highly remunerative, speed enforcement. Speed enforcement does nothing to make the sreets safer but it sure keeps the police retirement fund nice and fat. How do you think that cities pay for all those paramilitary toys they love so much?



Anyone who believes that "speed kills" should also be against life flights on helicopters and speeding ambulances. As usual slogans are lies.



But I'm betting that these sorts of articles are preparatory to massive lawsuits against dealers and manufacturers. Apparently the latest twist in "legal" shakedowns is to sue companies for daring to sell fully regulated and completely legal products. They've been doing this to gun makers for years. Anyone noticed the latest shakedown of automakers by that nazi, Lockyer, in Kalif? Bike companies just might be next. Each shyster assault on legal companies from tobacco on forward has been preceded by a black propaganda media blitz.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:37 PM   #19
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Dang it wrong thread again. Sheeesh. Sarnali? Why do you make me do this?
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:12 PM   #20
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Default seruzawa supports big brother monitoring,using the wrong measure i.e. Speed does kill

Interesting idea but the only way it could be enforced is with the addition of a black box "ride recorder". I thought you were against these nanny state type ideas. By the way using momentum il.e mass time velocity is probably inferior to using kinetic energy which uses square of the velocity times the mass times a half. [b] Kinetic energy is more important measure in ballistics and collision damage.
[i]So speed in fact does kill

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