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Old 09-18-2006, 12:08 PM   #11
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Default Re: 'Wobble' to Blame for Officer's Death?

I read the article to mean that the bag-o-crete was on the shoulder, and that he hit it after being forced onto the shoulder by the semi's wake, wobble or something else. It was the bag that ultimately caused the crash, but not the events leading up to it. Clearly there is a lot that is unknown - at least to us.



As far as operator skill and knowing the bike's limits, motor officers are highly trained riders, typically able to do rather incredible things with those big heavy bikes they ride. Obviously I can't speak for the poor guy here, but I wouldn't assume that he didn't know the machine's "normal" limits. Maybe the combination of speed and aerodynamics initiated an unlikely, but very dangerous condition. Now whose fault that is...
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:09 PM   #12
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Well if you do something stupid and hurt yourself it has to be someone's fault!
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:40 PM   #13
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I mean no disrespect to officer Paul, and godspeed to him. However, using a POS like that one to high speed chase a criminal, is a crime in itself, a crime commited not only by his superiors for allowing it, but specially by the motor company for selling such trash to our finest in uniform. And the idiot who states that they oscillate a little at those speeds, has no idea of what a TANKSLAPPER is all about, he should be SLAPPED for such an assinine statement.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:46 PM   #14
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Default Re: 'Wobble' to Blame for Officer's Death?

Quite frankly, I doubt many of us here consider 85 MPH on an interstate to be a high speed chase.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:56 PM   #15
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Thanks for showing your level of intelligence once again.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:24 PM   #16
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Default Re: 'Wobble' to Blame for Officer's Death?

Without delving further into my own personal problems - when my Father was killed in March, the Lawyers literally came out of the woodwork. Some it took several firm "No's" to get them to go away. My Father believed in personal responsibility - *HE* made the mistake that took his life, and no amount of settlement money will ever bring him back.



I believe that were my brother and sister and I to pursue some lawsuit against his employer, their parent company, or the equipment manufacturer - he would literally whip my A$$ off (were he alive to do so). It was tempting; most of the Blood-Sucking-Lawyers were talking $1M to $4M in settlement (before their cut, I assume). But my Father raised me better than that.



I'm not saying anything about the Officer's Widow - it's not my Family, and not my place, and our decision should reflect in no way on his Family's decisions. This is merely my own situation.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:45 PM   #17
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Default Re: 'Wobble' to Blame for Officer's Death?

Funny, isn't it. When the Big4 sell sportbikes with high speed stability problems (like the recent ZX6) the clowns say, "Just add a steering damper." When HD has the same problem it's, "Kill the criminal bastards for selling crap."

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Old 09-18-2006, 01:45 PM   #18
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:49 PM   #19
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Especially when the sportbikes are more likely to be ridden in that range.



I would guess most motorcycle officers do not engage in pursuit at any speed. There's no way I would chase a crook in a car on any motorcycle.



It's like a dog chasing a car. What's he gonna do when he catches it?
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:52 PM   #20
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You mean he actually has a level of intelligence to show? Surely, you jest!
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