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LiionsRest 08-09-2006 12:59 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
Glad to see many have taken the time to give that fuknuckle what for.

The Hummer comparison showed up in my response, too....

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I'll start with agreeing that speeding is unsafe and illegal.

Going 100+ MPH on a public road is stupid.



However, get bent.

Your flowery spew of 'shocking' statistics meant to cast the Hayabusa in a demonic light is a smear campaign with no justification other than your own misguided opinions.



You compare the horsepower with that of an airplane as if it were some kind of scandalous revelation. Big deal, my Saturn Vue has 250 horsepower, should I now go crowing to my friends it's so much more powerful than a little Cessna puddle-jumper? Not every aircraft is a high performance machine. That Cessna is the 'VW Beetle' of aircraft. You're comparing apples to fishheads to yellow journalists.



Yes, I know it's all about power-to-weight ratios, and the Hayabusa has one of the most intense. Again, so what? It's all about the rider not the bike. Your conclusion that the large amount of acceleration is only used for "road rage" is incorrect! Using that kind of acceleration is FUN, and puts a SMILE on the riders face, not thoughts of harm or damage. Plenty of riders just like having the power there to get out of trouble, not cause it. The trouble, usually caused by someone driving a 4000 pound SUV trying to dial a cellphone, not paying attention.



Here's a fun fact you chose to ignore: a quick survey of responses to the question of fuel economy on a Hayabusa discussion forum indicated the bike gets around 40 MPG. I'll bet in the current energy crisis climate, a lot of people consider 40 MPG downright heroic.



Your list of 'missing' safety equipment is laughable... roll bars, shoulder harnesses, beams, bags, bumpers?? Please, go engineer those items onto a rideable motorcycle, and get back to me when you're done.



You wonder why litigators haven't legislated bikes like this away? Because in this country, you're innocent until proven guilty. Our nation's laws permit such bikes because it is their operators not the bikes themselves controlling whether they're used in a way contrary to public safety. The laws punish the riders who ride so irresponsibly. The intended use of these bikes is TRANSPORTATION, just like an 8600 pound Hummer H2 which, going at it's top speed of 80 MPH, could just as sensationally be disparaged as a "deadly weapon".



Just because you have some vendetta against motorcycles is no reason to vomit up such an ill-informed puddle of vitriol.

How's that for flowery spew?

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Here's the non-sequitor auto response:

<blockquote>Ye gods! Thanks for writing to TMQ.



While I don't usually reply, I do read all messages.



May the football gods smile upon you.



Best, Gregg</blockquote>

feldguy2002 08-09-2006 01:04 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
I know this sounds crazy, but I found little concern with his comments.



Motorcycling is still a taboo sport amongst most of society....and while I understand that most people find it dangerous, I cannot stand by and allow someone to group all of us as hooligans.



In my younger years, not too long ago, factually, I have done enough bad things on a bike to aggravate a good many people....so I can say that these comments are not totally unwarranted....but just like drinking, smoking,skydiving, scuba diving, bull riding....and so on, our sport is that of thrill seekers.



I dislike the fact that he bashes the motorcycle just for being a marvel of technology, but he does have a valid point for the most part, it doesnt belong in the hands of many people who posess them. I was 21 riding a ZX12R with 180hp....and in all seriousness, it was silly for the dealership to allow me to even buy it.



i learned a great deal about riding with that bike and now Im not a beginner, not a novice but not yet an expert....so lets just say right under an advanced rider., I, however, differ from many my age...esecially Roethesberger (sp) who stupidly refuses to wear a helmet....especially considering how much money he stands to lose for contract violations.






pkbrown 08-09-2006 01:19 PM

The Great Irony is...
 
How many Suzuki's did this guy just sell? Considering who reads ESPN, Suzuki should be sending this dude a check. Especially with that mythical 3 seconds to 100 mph. Damn, I've gotta get one of those!




seruzawa 08-09-2006 01:23 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
This fool, like so many others, is unaware of the basis of our legal system. We are not under Napoleonic law or Sharia. Our legal system descends from English Common Law. Under our system you have the legal right to do anything that isn't forbidden by law. We don't need to govt's "permission" to do anything. According to this fool the only things we can do without the govt's permission are speak, worship and own guns. He has the usual but idiotic idea that the govt confers "rights". What an arrogant moonbat.



If he were treated as cavalierly as he tries to treat motorcyclists he'd be crying ang moaning at the top of his lungs. Typical hypocrite.

ksquid 08-09-2006 01:31 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
Excellent point -- English common law thing...

bmwroadrider 08-09-2006 03:06 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
I am glad my request was so well taken. Its good that we all fight back against things like this.



Bmwroadrider

bigdx 08-09-2006 03:17 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
"Well, uh, gee, what do you think a federal court (often with a judge who has a lifetime appointment from the executive branch) is going to say. The Constitution is clear; the courts are confused and unaccountable."



I am sure you have some point Â…



"Your child is statistically much more endangered by thousands of other things besides sportbikes."



Like your opinion pertaining to what is safe or unsafe for my child matters?



"if someone is endangering someone else, we have laws and remedies for it,"



Yes we have. Unfortunately some folks choose ignore those laws.



"but Easterbrook's column is about banning things as a kneejerk reaction based on emotion."



Not sure what the absurdity of a 200mph capable motorcycle for public roads has to do with emotion.



"Not only is it stupid (and ineffectual), it's unconstitutional"



It is very effective, it has been read by many thousands (who do vote) and simply because you consider it your constitutional right to have access to a 200mph capable motor vehicle for use on public roads does not make it so.


bmwroadrider 08-09-2006 03:33 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
Here is what I wrote



Mr. Easterbrook



When I first read your article I was enraged and frustrated. As a response, I (via a chat room) asked many of my motorcycling brethren to email their opinions to you about your comments about the Hayabusa and motorcycles in general. My first email response attempt failed, and now that I have some time to think about the issue I have calmed down and have become more sad than anything else. I wish you would have done better research before you lambasted high performance motorcycles. It is true that they are dangerous, but no more so than a car of any type or size. Not anyone should be able to buy and operate a Hayabusa or any other type of high performance motorcycle, but by the same logic many people should not be allowed to drive Corvettes or Ferraris, or even a SUV. High performance vehicles require expert abilities, and I don´t think because someone has driven a Honda Civic for 5 years means they can handle a Corvette once they get that big raise. A middle aged man who has been driving a Camry for the last 10 years does not necessarily have the skill as a driver to go out a safely operate a Porsche. I do not know your opinion on this issue, but why wasn´t there more of an outcry about the abuse of sport cars because of the Danny Heatly/Dan Snyder disaster or the bobby Phills accident. In both cases people died. By your article´s reasoning these types of vehicles should be banned as well. I don´t mind your view that high performance motorcycles should be confined to closed course use, and actually our streets would be safer without them, however you cannot intelligently use a type of vehicle (a sports car) as a metric for how unsafe motorcycles are when that vehicle metric is even more unsafe, and then not call for the ban on that vehicle as well. Finally, while Rothlisberger was stupid for not wearing a helmet, the accident was not his fault. He was hit by a woman who couldn´t operate her car safely, and he almost died as a result of it. This would be like blaming the Jews that were killed in the Holocaust for not realizing the danger and leaving Europe when it was still possible for some of them to do so.



Thank you for reading this.



Matthew Elke

dean_1 08-09-2006 03:37 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
I never made it past the cheerleaders.

eojmo 08-09-2006 03:54 PM

Re: 'Sayonara, Hayabusa', says ESPN Writer.
 
I saw some idiot in a small Toyota sedan cutting up traffic and speeding away from stop lights.According to Easterbrook's way of thinking , we should ban all small Toyota's?

An idiot will always be an idiot, no matter what they ride or drive.


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