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mrdemma · 06-29-2006, 06:16 PM

Nothing to say. Just my first first.

jasonlion54 · 06-29-2006, 06:38 PM

Congratulations.

Thruxomatic · 06-29-2006, 06:41 PM

I've never really understood all the one-upmanship you see in business. The suits treat it like it is this be all and end all that they hit market first, do it in secret, and somehow get one over on their competitors. Wow, you beat Honda to the market by two days in 2006. Congrats, Yamaha, you get a) two extra days of sales and ... that's about it. Honda is still going to launch the Blackbird, people waiting for the Blackbird are still going to buy it instead of the V-Max (it isn't as if they go "Hey, Yamaha was two days earlier to market, I should buy their product instead") and whatever dim joy you get for "beating" your competitor is short lived because you get to do it all over again in 2007, 2008, 2009 ...

Fenton · 06-29-2006, 06:50 PM

Honda introduced the "new" '06 VFR late last year and as it turns out didn't change the model every 4 years as we have come to expect. I believe the dealer show has passed and haven't seen the new press stuff. My local dealer said they would have '07 info a couple of weeks ago.(?)

I for one don't get the '07 intro during the '06 selling season.

The only downside is buying a bike today and having a "new/improved" model introduced in a month. Other than that, I have something to look forward to.

imported_g_k · 06-29-2006, 07:23 PM

Several years ago I bought a '93 CBR900RR, and I ordered a set of all articles that had been printed about the original model (92?) in US mags from a guy in Colorado that used to bundle information about specific bikes. It was interesting to compare the early "rumor" articles with what was finally produced. It was a great bike, light and powerful, but nothing like what the initial writers predicted. I believe it lost around 35 hp and gained around 50 pounds by the time it transitioned from vaporware to reality.

My point? I think there's about as much chance of a stock V-Max having 200 hp as there is George Bush winning the Nobel Prize for physics.

Whatmough · 06-30-2006, 02:33 AM

Why would he need to win it when he could just steal it?

svo68 · 06-30-2006, 02:33 AM

you are the man

svo68 · 06-30-2006, 02:37 AM

who's he going to steal it from, Michael Moore?

Steve781 · 06-30-2006, 03:13 AM

It seems the Brit rags are typically posting spy shots of the new bikes by this time of year. Where are they? Have the manufacturers gotten that much better at keeping secrets? More likely there simply are fewer hot new bikes coming out this year than the rumor mill would have us think. I am especially irked by the delay in a new vfr and/or blackbird.

gbrummett · 06-30-2006, 03:38 AM

Aint you somethin

06-29-2006, 06:16 PM	#1
mrdemma Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? Nothing to say. Just my first first.

06-29-2006, 06:38 PM	#2
jasonlion54 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 70	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? Congratulations.

06-29-2006, 06:41 PM	#3
Thruxomatic Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 138	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? I've never really understood all the one-upmanship you see in business. The suits treat it like it is this be all and end all that they hit market first, do it in secret, and somehow get one over on their competitors. Wow, you beat Honda to the market by two days in 2006. Congrats, Yamaha, you get a) two extra days of sales and ... that's about it. Honda is still going to launch the Blackbird, people waiting for the Blackbird are still going to buy it instead of the V-Max (it isn't as if they go "Hey, Yamaha was two days earlier to market, I should buy their product instead") and whatever dim joy you get for "beating" your competitor is short lived because you get to do it all over again in 2007, 2008, 2009 ... __________________ Matt

06-29-2006, 06:50 PM	#4
Fenton Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,898	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? Honda introduced the "new" '06 VFR late last year and as it turns out didn't change the model every 4 years as we have come to expect. I believe the dealer show has passed and haven't seen the new press stuff. My local dealer said they would have '07 info a couple of weeks ago.(?) I for one don't get the '07 intro during the '06 selling season. The only downside is buying a bike today and having a "new/improved" model introduced in a month. Other than that, I have something to look forward to.

06-29-2006, 07:23 PM	#5
imported_g_k Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 87	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? Several years ago I bought a '93 CBR900RR, and I ordered a set of all articles that had been printed about the original model (92?) in US mags from a guy in Colorado that used to bundle information about specific bikes. It was interesting to compare the early "rumor" articles with what was finally produced. It was a great bike, light and powerful, but nothing like what the initial writers predicted. I believe it lost around 35 hp and gained around 50 pounds by the time it transitioned from vaporware to reality. My point? I think there's about as much chance of a stock V-Max having 200 hp as there is George Bush winning the Nobel Prize for physics.

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06-30-2006, 02:33 AM	#6
Whatmough Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 104	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? Why would he need to win it when he could just steal it?

06-30-2006, 02:33 AM	#7
svo68 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 100	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? you are the man

06-30-2006, 02:37 AM	#8
svo68 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 100	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? who's he going to steal it from, Michael Moore?

06-30-2006, 03:13 AM	#9
Steve781 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 148	Re: Yamaha & Honda Playing Cat and Mouse? It seems the Brit rags are typically posting spy shots of the new bikes by this time of year. Where are they? Have the manufacturers gotten that much better at keeping secrets? More likely there simply are fewer hot new bikes coming out this year than the rumor mill would have us think. I am especially irked by the delay in a new vfr and/or blackbird.

06-30-2006, 03:38 AM	#10
gbrummett Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 512	Aint you somethin Aint you somethin