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Old 12-07-2005, 08:44 AM   #1
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first!!!!!!!!!!!



What looks good on the surface has flaws throughout underneath..

The Euro weenies are trying to make licensing harder not safer. The Brits have the system right.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:47 AM   #2
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I have mixed emotions about these regulations possibly making their way over here. Though I didn't really plan it this way, at 43 y.o. and riding 28 years I am riding my first over 1000 cc. bike. Started on an XL 100 at 15 and steadily got a little more motorcycle each of the 10 or so bikes since then. It has worked for me so far but I like to think I am more mature also.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:34 AM   #3
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Make the tests real tests and I'd be okay with a 14 year old riding a 'busa and never letting some 45 year olds ever ride anything ever.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:48 AM   #4
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I don't see tiered licensing happening over here. Motorcycling in the US isn't for transportation, it's for recreation. We don't impact society in any significant way. Now, if we had a national healthcare program that was paid for out of taxpayer dollars then the burden to the healthcare system might draw attention.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:52 AM   #5
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Yet it is okay for a 16 year old to drive moms Hummer?

The whole idea of restricting what an adult can do makes my head hurt. I don't think it is really right that the drinking age is 21 in the US. If you can join the military, sign a contract, go to real prison, and or get married what right does the government have to say you can't buy a drink or ride a motor cycle.

I am way over 25 and don't drink at all but things like this really bother me. Maybe it is because I am live in Florida and see too many 80 year olds running people down. Yes in a parking lot near my office an 80 year old ran over a mother and two kids!

Motorcycles don't tend to kill anyone that isn't ridding them. Fix the car system first since they are more dangerous.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:43 PM   #6
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Agreed, the Brit system does have the best numbers...go with a system that works. Let each state set requirements. The MSF can work with EACH STATE if the MSF wants a piece of the pie. Absolutely NO NATIONAL STANDARDS...minimizes the inevitable influence peddling!
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:17 PM   #7
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I'd have to say that most inexperienced riders shouldn't be able to buy a 600cc sportbike much less a big bike( including a 700lb cruiser). I have a 15 yr old son and can't wait to help him get a street bike. I know it won't be a repli-racer of any kind. I'm planning on starting him out on a DR-Z400SM. It's a great learning bike. I'm all about sportbikes but feel too many young people shouldn't be "learning" the road on these very fast bikes. I don't have any quick answers but I would agree to any Reasonable plan of graduated liscense program. I'm sure it would save a few lives and a whole lot of pain.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:15 PM   #8
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It's none of my business or the business of my government to keep people from killing themselves. A bike rider - inexperienced, drunk, high, or whatever - is a danger almost exclusively to himself. On the other hand that soccer mom in the SUV with a cel phone in her ear...



If graduated licensing were used to make the streets safer they'd make everybody ride a motorcycle for 3yrs before they could drive a car. We wouldn't have many inattentive drivers then.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:21 PM   #9
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How, pray tell, do they think they are going to enforce such a law? I don't think you can tell how old someone is going the other way, wearing a helmet, and hopefully other gear. My guess is, that if you can find someone old enough to be the official "owner" of a bike you fancy, you would have to be a damn fool to ever get popped. Cops have better things to do. Don't they?
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:02 PM   #10
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Welcome to the worker's paradise.
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