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Old 12-08-2005, 05:27 AM   #21
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No big bike until 24.



How about no military service until 24.

By then when someone tells you to shot someone you'll be smart enough to ask why and say you want him shot, then you do it.



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Old 12-08-2005, 07:13 AM   #22
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Tiered licensing makes some sense, but it should only be based on skills, not age. And the skills test should reflect real-world situations, not be at parking-lot speed. I'm violently opposed to age-based licensing schemes - they seem senseless. Just look at Rossi.



I'm in favor of tiered licensing for cars, too, but based on a weight / power formula, not just power. Get untrained drivers out of 6,000+ pound vehicles, basically.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:21 AM   #23
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Show me the money. Does the motorcycle industry donate heavily to US legislators? That's what gets things done, or prevents action by our feckless leaders (kinda like "protection" money). If a graduated licensing system would hurt sales of bikes, and industry puts up $$$, then there's not a chance of it happening.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:27 AM   #24
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If you want to put a stop to gunboat diplomacy just require the children of all elected or oppointed officials to serve as combat infantry for the entire length of the office holders term.



As far as licensing goes, requireing new riders young or old to have licenses limited to 500cc and smaller for the first two years would weed out the posers and give them a chance to learn some basic skills on a smaller bike.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:17 AM   #25
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500cc? Perfect. We should have all beginners start out on H1 triples. That would certainly weed out those that don't have the necessary skills for a 650 KLR.
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Old 12-08-2005, 09:23 AM   #26
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RD350's would work too....



I was thinking more of SR500's or EX500's. The thing is when we started riding there were tons of small bikes or dirt bikes that sort of thing. You learned your skills on a small bike and moved up, by the time you got a big bike like a 650 or 750 you had a chance of being able to ride it.



Now you get guys with minimal experiance on 600's and up that were full on race bike performance levels a few years ago or 800lb cruisers and drinking. It's not good for the sport and people get hurt which makes it look even worse. On the other hand, all the 40~60 year old exec's ridng Harleys are a pretty powerful demographic from a political and economic standpoint so that helps us in the short term at least.



I know I'm preaching to the choir here, you've been riding at least as long as me..........



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Old 12-08-2005, 11:45 AM   #27
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Hoo-Rah! Personally, I think the ages should be reversed. 18 to drink, and 21 to drive.



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Old 12-08-2005, 11:49 AM   #28
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Hmmm. I just bought an SR500. Last bike I sold was a YZF1000R. I must be getting old.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:50 AM   #29
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But, then, how will I keep my wife and kids safe?



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Old 12-08-2005, 12:04 PM   #30
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My first motorcycle was a really old 250ccc Zundapp which made 8 hp. I soon upgraded to a Honda 55cc stepthru trail bike.
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