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Old 12-07-2005, 07:04 PM   #11
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Default Re: Euro Licensing Model Meets Resistance For Now.

I don't want ANYTHING from the corrupt euro nanny-state in America. Nothing! Europe is in terminal decline. It has no future whatsoever. Emulating their government-by-elites system would be a profound mistake.



We are going to have to fight the EPA as well. If they could, they would destroy motorcycling as we know it and find much satisfaction in doing so. Under the banner of moral superiority... the religion of environmentalism.
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:07 AM   #12
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Default one word - LAME!

We don't need more arbitrary crap laws in our lovely 'free world' what we need is people that take resposibility for themselves! People with brains!



You can't legislate away stupidity.



I find it pretty F***'n hillarious that people that ride motorcycles are considered such a danger that we need a graduated licence system, yet people that drive cars don't when it's pretty ovious the car is much more dangrous to everyone except the driver.



And don't even say we should have graduated licence system to protect motorcyclist from themselves. It's NOT the laws place to protect us from ourselves. Just look all the states that don't require helemts.



Your trying to tell me we should think about having a graduated licence system when we don't even have helemt laws in all the states?



21, 24... screw that you should be able to get whatever you want by the time you can get drafted into the army. Who comes up with these BS arbitrary ages??
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Old 12-08-2005, 12:34 AM   #13
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Do your son a favor, start him off with a dirt bike. When he is sufficent in the dirt he will be much better prepared for the street.
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:47 AM   #14
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...and to complete our nirvana, we must surrender our bikes (the "means" of motorcycling) to the govt for redistribution according to our abilities/needs. No need to worry, the govt will surely whither away once we to love each other...
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:39 AM   #15
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I'll be waiting to hear about those dangerously restrictive EPA regulations.. I mean the gang we've got in Washington now wants to drill for oil in pristine national parks--hard to imagine them doing anything to step on any industry toes, even the MC industry. Hell, were even free to eat tainted meat with this crew in charge.
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:47 AM   #16
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Government-by-elites...hmmmm...something about that sounds familiar....



It's all collectivism, even here. "Do it for the children." "Do it for the country/nation/people/Volk". "Do it for the poor." "Do it for(insert your favorite deity here)." And if ya don't, we'll come after your money! H3ll, we'll come after that anyway!
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:59 AM   #17
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You live in Americuh, the land of less than 10% union jobs, offshoring, tax evasion, purchased elections and corporate corruption ... and that also sports the biggest gap between rich and poor in the world. I think the closet commies from Europe are the last people you need to worry about.



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Old 12-08-2005, 05:04 AM   #18
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Odd, that. All this talk about collectivism when for the entirety of human existence we have lived in tribes, communitites or families. I don't understand it at all.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:15 AM   #19
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Fighting the EPA is easy; Reagan more or less killed it in the 80s.



Besides, "destroying motorcycling as we know it" is a bit of hyperbole. Fuels will change, so the internal combustion engine will change or even disappear, but that doesn't mean motorcycling will stop altogether. Or is it that you are so tied to the vroom-vroom that you wouldn't ride a motorcycle that might be more or less silent? In the end, it doesn't matter what comes out of the tailpipe (water or normal exhaust) as long as you butt is in the saddle, right?
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:18 AM   #20
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I have worked in the federal government since 1994 and all I can say is NO.NO.NO.!!!you don,t want this,whateversounds nice on paper,by the time the oligarchy gets thru with it,it will look like nothing it started out as,will be laden with all sorts of superfluous ancillary ideas[i.e pork],and cost tax dollars to implement! I know of what I speak.Just more chipping away of our illusions of freedom in a " free society"[hah!]
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