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Old 06-15-2005, 10:23 PM   #1
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yabadabado.



Yea it's a scooter. It can't compete performance wise. If you have scooter performance you got to be around 3,000 or 4,000 dollars. Even then a ninja 250 is a bargain if you take a closer look. People would buy this thing if it came in around 4,000 . At 6000 it's a rich mans put aside toy.
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:16 AM   #2
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Remember the Segway. I had the chance to ride one around DC it is cool but .... Kinda like my Ex-wife she was cool but ...you know the rest
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:08 AM   #3
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Let the negative comments begin!

I think its a cool start, electric powered vehicles have full torque at 0 rpm, so if they get the power supply down it will be one hoot of a ride.

But its only a first and a third step in the right direction.

What little I do know about fuell cells is that there are many different chemicals that can be used. I think that a LP based cell would be more practical (just for its availability).
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:24 AM   #4
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Hydrogen vs Biodiesel
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:22 AM   #5
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You've still got to burn fossil fuel to extract hydrogen.



Imagine what happens when morons crash into fuel pumps or drive off with the hose and ground wire still attached.



Rear end collision?



"Oh, the humanity!!!!!"
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:22 AM   #6
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Looks like a 1978 Katana prototype.



Sigh, ohhh the problems producing, distributing & storing hydrogen.



See Pat Bedard for article after article after article on the bottom line problems.



While it sounds so good, I won't be holding my breath. As for diesels, no breath holding there either just yet. Again see C&D for recent in depth look at diesel problems with emissions and the way cool (and way expensive) VW Touraeg V-10 diesel. It is already off the N American mkt re upcoming emissions tightening for diesel.



For other opinions on the whole thing, Forbes.com should have Jerry Flint's columns archived. Flint is a life long motorhead (well - car guy) and flinty eyed stock analyst. See him for a breath of reality.



Don't get the idea I'm against this stuff. I'd love to see technology give us more efficiency, power, lighter weight, lower emissions, enhanced durability, etc., etc. Based on what I read, it looks like it will be a LOT later rather than sooner for consumer transportation. Better bet: stationary fuel cells powered by natural gas first for commercial apps then for homeowners.



Saying adios to big electrical plants (and expensive, troublesome & easy damaged grids) with big time captial costs, heavy point source emissions, need for coal, etc, would be a fine thing in the long run though hugely disruptive in the short run for our 401's, employment, etc.



Here is hoping I way to pessimistic on this one.
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:23 AM   #7
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I say the first "for Dummies" post comes June 24th.
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:30 AM   #8
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The UNH Biodiesel Group is a great place for unbiased information on this topic, don't you think?
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:40 AM   #9
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You're talking to someone who gets his anti-Bush information from MoveOn.org and his pro-Clinton info from Bubba's own archives!
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Old 06-16-2005, 04:41 AM   #10
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I've read all of Bedard's articles as well and they appear very well-reasoned.



How long until the envirowackos are running around screaming about Big Hydrogen!!!!?
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