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Old 06-16-2005, 12:22 PM   #41
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Default City of Tacoma Fleet using biodiesel

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Old 06-16-2005, 12:52 PM   #42
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:56 PM   #43
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Default OH HAPPY HAPPY DAY!!!

Things at MO are coming back to normal! Kpaul is once again stirring the pot! Excuse me while I go perform a cartwheel! Three cheers for Kpaul! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray!



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Old 06-16-2005, 01:15 PM   #44
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Default Re: The Hydrogen Hoax

Great link. I've been touting biodiesel for the last 4 years.
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:26 PM   #45
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Default Re: PetroDiesel has the smell Buz not Bio

I thought bio smelled like old french fries.
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:11 PM   #46
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Default Hydrogen Is the Middle Man

Why use electricity to generate hydrogen, then use hydrogen to generate electricity to power the bike?



Why not just use electricity to power the bike? Replace the fuel cell with batteries. Replace the hydrogen distribution network with a receptacle in your garage.



The latest generation of phosphate-based lithium-ion batteries weigh less than lead-acid, have greater capacity, charge in less time, and have longer range.



They're already being used in laptops, wheelchairs, golfcarts, and the latest generation of the Segway, which has twice the range of the original.
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:24 PM   #47
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Great point. If batteries keep improving you could be right. The instantaneous torque of electrical motors is awesome witness hybrid cars. No wasteful conversion of energy. Excellent point. mikenomad. Of course then how do we generate all of that electrical power that will be needed....Nukes are option. Coal (we have tons of that)....
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:26 PM   #48
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Default Re: PetroDiesel has the smell Buz not Bio

OK now I know what you are talking about. It maybe only the recycled oil smells like that. I'll do some more research.... JB's car huh?
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:32 PM   #49
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We have an estimated 200-year supply of coal in the United States, more than anybody else. We don't have to go to war to ensure access to it.



We can generate electricity any number of ways -- coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear, solar, hydro, wind -- to power our transportation system.
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:39 PM   #50
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Even could use biodiesel at a central power plant. But I have to admit the coal thing probably trumps everthing else from a economic and efficiency thing. South Africa supposedly uses Coal Gasification to get gasoline.. Good stuff nomad. Keep it coming....
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