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Old 06-16-2005, 11:39 AM   #31
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Default Re: The Hydrogen Hoax

"Biodisel and ethanol are the no-big-thinkers-needed solution to being energy independent" Well said. In engineering school we had a professor that always said KISS keep it simple stupid. There is a tendancy for engineers to over think and over engineer things. My wife can testify that me and my buddies tend to over think things. The Hydrogen solution reminds me of that I forgot about the Brazil ethanol thing Great example Ashley...
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:07 PM   #32
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Default Re: A real world user's story and locations you can buy it now in progressive Seattle

Nice "fan" sites and nice to see some WA State availability.



You'll know it is on the verge of success when major ( meaning for profit) fleets start implementing.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:17 PM   #33
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Ethanol and "Biodiesel" (Really waste oil) are only economical now because they are seen as largely waste products. If there was large scale use of them as vehicle fuels, their cost advantage would dissappear. Ethanol is not as efficient as petro-fuels, and Biodiesel has air pollution consequences that are, as of now, unregulated.



Please believe me when I say I am am ready as anyone for the silver bullet to vehicular energy use, but "Biodiesel", ethanol, and, IMNSHO, Hydrogen fuel cells, all have severe roadblocks to overcome before they can match petro fuels for efficiency and cost.



Time to drill in that small patch of the Alaska coast that they're asking for.



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Old 06-16-2005, 12:18 PM   #34
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Well I can hardly wait until we're just like Brazil!



I just think it's odd that this is a site dedicated to the burning of fossil fuels.



Does anyone really want a bio-diesel motorcycle?



Our highways will smell like the inside of jb's Jagrolet.



Ashley that's a great excuse for getting a Benz. I was really planning to buy a Honda and missed the turn and ended up at the Mv Agusta shop.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:18 PM   #35
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"according to moveon.org.... "



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Old 06-16-2005, 12:22 PM   #36
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And then the libs will start screaming, "Big Cooking Oil!"



And they'll claim we're being raped by Wesson because Archer Daniels Midland!!! gave money to **** Cheney! and TOM DELAY!!!!!
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:22 PM   #37
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Yeah, but then Kpaul, errrr SBB, will just claim that the corporations are highjacking it for nefarious use and eventual destruction.
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:42 PM   #38
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Is that like Barbi's car or something?
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Old 06-16-2005, 12:57 PM   #39
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Default Based on what your opinion. Alaska drilling is a drop in the bucket.

Please site studies that support your opinion. Give me facts and data please. Biodiiesel is the silver bullet. Your first paragraph is incorrect false.... Please look at the all links I have posted. I don't want to repost them here cause that would be spamming. Your pollution statement is incorrect according to the EPA. Please site facts i.e. links that explain why biodiesel is not the answer. Take all the money we spend in Iraq invest in biodiesel tax credits. Bingo instant production infrastructure... the road to energy independance



Alaska drilling is a drop in the bucket. i.e it will make some of Ws friends rich...
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:02 PM   #40
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Default PetroDiesel has the smell Buz not Bio

Another myth about diesel Buz.





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