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Old 04-06-2005, 07:03 PM   #1
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"When the going gets weird the weird turn pro".....

A fitting end to a delirious and highly entertaining life.
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:44 PM   #2
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i guess it's fitting for someone who shot himself with his wife on the phone with him.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:38 AM   #3
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It is a ashame that people have such low self esteem and lack the ability to see through a self aggrandiising stoner like this loser. Good riddance to bad rubbish!
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Old 04-07-2005, 02:01 AM   #4
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Not to be too critical, but it's probably not a good thing to assume you know anothers motives. Seeing things through the clouded glass of my own belief system has often caused knee-jerk reactions that usually need to be amended. Yes, HST probably became a prisoner of his own image and killing himself was a horrible thing for him to do to his family and friends. But, condeming someone for their actions, while not truely knowing the circumstances of those actions, is a mite narrow minded.

LIke it or not, HST influenced more writers than Joyce (those who can read and understand Ulysses are few and far between). Though his style was obviously gleaned from the beat writers, Keroiac and Burroughs, HST popularized the style and changed the face of journalism. Whether that was good or bad, I can't say. However, he made me laugh and helped many of us to see things beyond what our English teachers were capable of.

And, considering that you take you post-name from the Norse God of mischief, I wonder what you are complaining about. You might want to keep in mind that chaos isn't a choice, it's the natural state of the universe. HST simply put it into words.

As for low self esteem, that can be manifested in innumerable ways - from abject poverty to attempts of world domination...and, few ever really know the reasons for thier own actions.

"Who the Gods would destroy, first they make mad." Madness is a time-honored tradition of those who look beyond. Sometimes taking the peak is too much, and the rest of us are left to wonder.
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Old 04-07-2005, 02:26 AM   #5
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I'd have thought he would have wanted to be mixed in with chopped meat, herbs and spices and run through the sausage grinder one more time.
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:41 AM   #6
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I can't believe anyone could call HST a "loser". I should be such a loser! He created a massive body of work and made a HUGE impact on the journalistic world along with a permanent mark on the thinking of his generation.

He made a good living and was able to do what he wanted. When his life was too painful to keep living, he ended it on his own terms, at a time of his choosing.

I hope I can say the same thing about my life, although I hope my death comes later and less violently!
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:59 AM   #7
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There is nothing wrong in a violent death. Such as crashing a bike or shooting one´s brains out.

A bad death is when you are tied in plastic tubes in your bed for a year and your thighs swell the size of your waist. Has happened to someone I know. Avoid at all costs.

A particularly good death I would say is a heart attack when drunk stoned on top of some **** in a sleazy backstreet joint in Rio.

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Old 04-07-2005, 05:24 AM   #8
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His 5 year old grandson was in the house when he blew his brains out.

I don't know if you have children but scarring a little kid for life is not a noble way to end it all.

The true measure of a person's character is how they respond when things are not going well for them. Perhaps if he dedicated his life to being a good husband, father,grandfather his children wouldn't have had to scoop up his brain matter.
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Old 04-07-2005, 06:27 AM   #9
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My thoughts exactly.... His actions show that to the end he was obsessed with satisfying his id. No Superego for HST.

HST is the poster child for the Me generation.
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Old 04-07-2005, 07:19 AM   #10
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very Republican of you. One-size-fits-all mentalities like yours are why guys like HST choose to leave the building.
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