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Old 04-07-2005, 08:21 AM   #11
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While I think that HST was probably a pretty complex guy, there is nothing "Republican" about claiming that he was incredibly selfish and that his end was atrocious. The context in particular I find to add to the repulsiveness of the act.



Much of HST's behavior was reprehensible, and deserves our censure as a society. Although a little crazy goes with genius, as does selfishness (witness Picasso as a classic example), HST wasn't replicable - normal people couldn't do what he did in life.



In any case, the reason he left the building was that the degredation of his faculties and physical condition had finally reached for him an intolerable point - it had nothing to do with "people like you" or "mentalities like yours". He said as much to his wife.



So you can bash a guy, but identifying his "mentality" as a root cause in HST's death is just stupid, and it doesn't even stand up to 30 seconds of trivial consideration.



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Old 04-07-2005, 08:28 AM   #12
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In my will, it specifies that a catapult shall be built, my body loaded into the launcher, set afire, and slung across the river onto the local country club golf course. I'm guessing this won't happen, but then again, I won't be around to care...



I enjoyed a couple of his books, loved Song of the Sausage Creature--I owned a Duc 900ss at the time. His later works were disappointing, but his Editorials for ESPN Page 2 clearly showed he could still write well about something for which he had a passion.



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Old 04-07-2005, 08:30 AM   #13
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"The true measure of a person's character is how they respond when things are not going well for them. Perhaps if he dedicated his life to being a good husband, father,grandfather his children wouldn't have had to scoop up his brain matter."



that's bout as republican as it gets. i'd say that a life's worth of Super Bowls and kentucky derbies and Nixonian politics was what drove HST to do the things that added up to his demise.
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:44 AM   #14
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...Or he might have just taken them all out (wife, kids, etc.)-we'll never know for sure, will we?



Bryan...how did I know this topic would devolve?...
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:51 AM   #15
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How sad that a statement like that is met with derision from you.



I didn't realize I was making a "Republican" statement. I'm quite certain some of my "liberal" friends live their lives the same way.
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:32 AM   #16
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right. i missed the fox broadcast that said HST was not a loving father, husband, etc, but the stuff i saw said the opposite. Republican in that it's easy to assume other people don't love their families as much as we do. Makes it easier to bomb the ***** out of them i suppose.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:03 AM   #17
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Anyone here remember reading Thompson's Hell's Angels? Though not focused on bikes per se, that is a book any MOron would enjoy.



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Old 04-07-2005, 11:30 AM   #18
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nice that you can accuse someone of a mass generalization and follow it up with your own mass generalization.



I didn't make any political commentary at all and I certainly didn't ascribe any family virtues to one particular political party. How you inferred that from what I said is a mystery to me. Maybe Republicans don't commit suicide or something.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:39 AM   #19
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also interesting you guys will never just admit when u r wrong.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:42 AM   #20
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I read it. Pretty good book.
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