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Old 04-16-2004, 05:42 AM   #1
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Default I'm sure the day will come

Big brother (all government enforcement) I'm sure is biting at the bit so to speak so they can have another weapon against us.



I'm just surprised as hell that the new Liter sport bikes are going on and on with no end in sight in higher horsepower and lower weight. I'm sure the day will be coming soon when some type of new law or higher and higher insurance premiums will put and end to it all.



DonÂ’t get me wrong, I love performance motorcycles and those responsible enough to ride them correctly. ItÂ’s just that I see more and more new squids out there seeing how fast they can go and/or pulling crazy stunts in very inappropriate areas.



I can see the news report now... After Joe Smuck lost control of his Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha/Suzuki super sport bike he crashed into and killed 3 children playing in a rural schoolyard. Prosecutors downloaded information from his motorcycle indicating he was going 184 mph when he entered the 25-mph school zone, which is a rural road normally posted at 55 mph during non-school hours. To correct this trend of lawlessness new legislation has been put before congress to restrict all types of motorcycles to no more then 100 horsepower and limit top speed to 85 mph.



An on board computer will transmit any attempts to alter the performance of the new motorcycles and / or gross speeding to nearby police cars.



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Old 04-16-2004, 05:52 AM   #2
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You can bet your sweet ass the insurance industry will push for this. I work in the industry in a loss control management position. We already routinely push for GPS monitoring of all commercially owned vehicles. I have heard rumblings that business who reimburse employees for business use of personal vehicles are starting to consider GPS for vehicles they do not even own....

Moving the level of surviellance up to the next level by "black box" records review is coming...you can go to the bank with that prediction. I have a fuzzy memory of seeing a discussion of same in some insurance industry publication, but my "chitty chitty bang bang" memory fails, so no specific citation can be recalled. I'm already hearing it from the "school hall monitor" types that infest the insurance industry.

For those of you with more time than I have could do a GOOGLE News search and find that this has already happened here in the USA.

I plan to update my bike fleet prior to the next round of emissions tightening and also before the inevitable monitoring devices show up.

I normally pop a freakin gasket when I see political stuff here, especially liberal nonsense. However you all just might want to keep a very, very close eye on what your Reps vote for. When they infringe on personal liberty, "off with their elective heads". If you don't keep both eyes on the ball, we all lose...regardless of which side of the political aisle you plant your chubby rumps upon. Remember - vote early and often...and DO vote your personal interests! It matters.

For MORONS who can read (something other than motorcycle stuff), try puffing a bit fo Virginia Postrel. See Amazon. She will make both libs and conservs furious. Tells me she is onto something.
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Old 04-16-2004, 05:54 AM   #3
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Default How Paranoid Do You Need to Be?

Depending on your level of paranoia, he "authorities" may already know quite a bit about you and how you are driving. Here in Houston there are a network of sensors over the roads that are used to show average speed on all the roads. You can look at a website and see what the average speed is on all the roads around town. The maps also show the locations of accidents. (link here http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/incmap/ )Very useful to look at when planning your route home for the evenings commute. The system works using EZ tags (automatic toll road tags) that so many people have now. The system detects the location and time of a tag at one point, then if it sees that same car (tag) further down the road at some time later it can calculate average speed between the points. This system is not limited to toll roads, it is all over town. It doesn't take a huge leap to wonder if the "authorities" are using this system to trace the location of individual cars. Each tag is after all traceable to an individual through the credit card linked to the tag. All the pieces are in place. Can Big Brother really resist being able to know where we are at any given time?
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Old 04-16-2004, 06:13 AM   #4
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How can anyone complain? This technology wil be extremely useful in discouraging behavior that might result in injury that in turn may result in the public having to pay the injured's medical costs.



It won't be difficult to add a coded GPS transponder much like that used for aircraft IFF. That way we can know where all motorists are at all times and in case of an accident an ambulance can be dispatched immediately.



It's a logical extension of seatbelt and helmet laws. Look how safe we all can be courtesy of the govt. Such power would never be abused.
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Old 04-16-2004, 06:27 AM   #5
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Technology is a tool like any other; so there's always opportunity for abuse and excess. Nobody seems to mind it in big rigs. Many companies use it to know exactly where/what the drivers are doing.



There's a case involving a pro football player here in the Dallas area where they tried to get the black box data. The law didn't catch up soon enough so I think the data was old. Two people were killed on the freeway by a speeding hit/run driver. They were trying to help another driver who had crashed just moments before.



Some would argue the technology is an invasion of privacy. I don't mind it as long as it doesn't apply to ME.
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Old 04-16-2004, 06:41 AM   #6
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GPS transponders are already installed on many new cars - any car with an on-board navigation system or OnStar at the very least...
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Old 04-16-2004, 06:54 AM   #7
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Fight the power! Fight big brother!



Fight the power! Fight the sensationalist media!



Fight the power! Fight the corporati!



Fight the power! Fight insurance companies!



Fight the power! Fight the oil companies!



Fight the power! Fight for our freedoms!



Fight the power! Ride a motorcycle!
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Old 04-16-2004, 07:06 AM   #8
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Bring it on.



I believe the general perception is that cars kill other people, but bikes only kill their owners. So, no one really cares about bikes.



I'm concerned about the opposite problem. If I get into an accident will any car drive stop and help me?
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Old 04-16-2004, 07:18 AM   #9
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The end game has been predicted; a reference to technology I think.



He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.



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