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Old 11-13-2003, 12:32 PM   #31
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It is truely a shame that the fall on your head has clouded your ability to grasp the obvious.



My point, that your myopia precludes you from seeing, is when you complain about the AMA's stance on helmets your argument is that the risky behavior of helmetless riders will wind up costing you money. Your solution to risky behavior ( i.e. motorcycling) is to have the government force insurance companies to provide healthcare to risk takers (motorcyclists, helmeted or bare headed) thereby costing everyone more money, and allowing government to further encroach on our freedoms. VWW

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Old 11-13-2003, 12:53 PM   #32
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Default Re: Life is not black and white. Get real

KPaul, Why don't you just quit while your behind? Did it ever occur to you that Enron did what it did despite the millions of dollars the taxpayers have paid our bloated bureaucracy of a government to protect us?



I am somewhat heartened to hear that you don't think socialism is the answer. It is however a shame that you haven't picked up on the fact that all of the wealth redistribution policies that you advocate (like this insurance boondoggle) are socialistic in nature. VWW
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Old 11-13-2003, 01:02 PM   #33
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Pehaps someone should warn KPaul that at least one government, powerful enough to force it's will on the people, had a "role to play" in having a pogrom for the congenitally retarded. VWW
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Old 11-13-2003, 01:22 PM   #34
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Default Maybe you should oppose this from the Bush Government

From the Right wing wacko government who brought you Iraq, we bring you....
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Old 11-13-2003, 01:23 PM   #35
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Default Re: Life is not black and white. Get real

[b] From the Right wing wacko government who brought you Iraq, we bring you....</b
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Old 11-13-2003, 01:26 PM   #36
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Default Buz works for in the health care biz thats why his profits were way up and

He loves Bush

[b] From the Right wing wacko government who brought you Iraq, we bring you....</b
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Old 11-13-2003, 01:30 PM   #37
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Default Re: Too simplistic guys

"If health insurance consumers have a legitimate breach of contract grievance then they have the ability to seek redress in the courts, as they should, without needing to pass new laws governing our behavior." Hey I got some samp land to sell you. Do you really believe that?

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Old 11-13-2003, 01:53 PM   #38
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Default Best post here.

Well said.
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Old 11-13-2003, 01:58 PM   #39
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Default Furthermore..........

My finger was trembling on the reply button to our favorite dolt however I will refrain even after being accused of being in the insurance industry.



Quite the opposite in fact, I've been an advocate for providers and hospitals for more than 12 years now. I've led more than 750 seminars in 47 different states teaching Dr's and Hospitals the business end of the industry which includes dealing with endless regulation, Medicare, and Insurance payment tactics all brought about by removing the consumer from the equation due to a third party paying the bill.



All one must do is look at the part of the medical industry that is least regulated (cosmetic surgery) and not paid for through insurance. Prices are not soaring. There is no "crisis" or shortage. The free market is working perfectly.



To surmise I'm a shill for the insurance industry is laughable. I've had insurance types get up and storm out of my sessions.



Swing and a miss for the dolt again.
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Old 11-13-2003, 02:05 PM   #40
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So what is your product Mr. B.S. What are you selling? What is your service? What would you suggest ending Medicare? Go back to the 18th century where only the rich and healthy could afford Health Care. Go back and ask yourself why Medicare and Insurance was invented. Come on , we have heard your right wing wacko criticisms. How about some real solutions??????????????????????????????
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