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Old 07-22-2003, 08:56 AM   #21
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"The bipartisan measures are in response to action taken by federal regulators that legalized health-insurance discrimination against riders. " from the article. This was not an action against the insurance providers themselves but rather to counter a loop hole created by federal regulators.



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Old 07-22-2003, 10:14 AM   #22
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He's a big V-twin guy now so I guess it's ok.
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Old 07-22-2003, 10:15 AM   #23
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Buells are cool. I love Harleys
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Old 07-22-2003, 10:18 AM   #24
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Thanks for the compliment If being pragmatic makes me unlike McCain then you should read his biography. This country would not be in the mess now if McCain was elected.
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Old 07-22-2003, 10:58 AM   #25
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If by "being pragmatic" you mean he is selling his soul for policical gain by totally ignoring his solomn oath of office which requires him to follow constitutional edicts and refrain from socialist legislation, then you're right K Paul. The country would not be in the mess it is now. The "mess" would be far greater. I will give him this though, at least he is upfront about his socialist proclivities, which is more than I can say for most other Republican polititians, whose actions in office seldom match their campeign rhetoric
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Old 07-22-2003, 11:29 AM   #26
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"Where exactly did the people grant the government the power to regulate private business? The answer is of course there is no LEGAL means by which "those that serve us" can regulate what a private enterprise will or will not offer it's customers. " Which planet have you been living on. The John Birch society has disbanded dude. There is no Jewish contolling consipiracy. The UN is not a evil Rockefeller plot to take over the world.



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Old 07-22-2003, 12:12 PM   #27
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The planet I live on is one where people with the requisite gray matter to separate fact from propaganda offer cogent discourse when disagreeing on subjects of importance. A world that you are apparently alien to.

K Paul, you're ad hominem sniping offers substantial refutation to neither my question nor my postulation. VWW
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Old 07-22-2003, 12:47 PM   #28
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Wow. What a bunch of crap.



If anything, the framers of our constitution meant for it to change and be interpreted as our nation changes. I believe that this works successfully. To interpret it so literally is a disservice to us all. So we should let the libertarians run the country and have them turn a blind eye towards...everything?



I'm sorry you think we're all sheep and we believe everything we're told, but I certainly don't. However, I do believe that our government plays an important role in shaping the evolution of this country. That includes passing laws limiting commerce. Private businesses are not allowed to discriminate against their customers because that's what the people want. Perhaps you're confusing sheep-like behavior with what's known as a majority -- the concept that this country was founded on.



In general, I think that most people can think for themselves. I for one almost always have copy of the Constitution with me and in fact just today I wrote my Congressman expressing my displeasure on a certain issue.

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Old 07-22-2003, 01:14 PM   #29
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Amen, VWW. My whole point was that the problem would not exist if not for the fact that the government got involved in the first place.
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Old 07-22-2003, 01:24 PM   #30
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To quote yourself ferb, "What a bunch of crap."!



To say that the Constitution changes with society is absolutely insane. So, according to your line of thought, freedom of speech as interpreted in today's society means we don't say anything that could be construed as anti-politically-correct. Words mean what they mean. They are quite literal. The framers, if anything, specifically stated their intent so certain rights could NOT be re-interpreted as meaning something else.



The left-wing of this country is doing their best to eliminate the right to bear arms, the right to say certain things that they deem "offensive", the right to eliminate our private property rights all thru "interpretation" in the liberal courts. If anyone has the ability to interpret, it's the Supreme Court.



Read the Federalist Papers sometime if you want to know their intent. Quite refreshing!!
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