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captainwhoopass · 05-29-2003, 02:58 PM

Undoubtedly the worst Photoshopped picture I have seen this year - it looks like they took the original racebike pictures, added in some fake sky and pavement, and digitally slapped a license plate/taillight (an ugly one at that) on it. It doesn't even have front turnsignals!

On a related note, if they can make a V-4 streetbike that sells, more power to 'em. But it would be the biggest mistake they could make to abandon their own unique V-Twin heritage (IMHO).

Buzglyd · 05-29-2003, 04:11 PM

I agree. Harley's V-Rod isn't exactly flying out the doors of dealerships.

Do you think even if Ducati made a 4 cylinder the KPauls of the world (godforbid there's more than one!) would buy one?

merv · 05-29-2003, 05:08 PM

Thing is its a bit like cheese - these things take time. Just remember what Ducati sold before they made twins - singles. Now who was saying then don't make a twin its abandoning the heritage blah blah blah. Likewise the first Hondas were singles. They seem to have done quite well out of bikes with more cylinders since. Remember 1969 and the first CB750. Who said damn its not a twin? I am sure if Ducati launched a four and it was a good machine it will sell, particularly if its faster than the twins. They might not sell them in large numbers straight away but they gain heritage through time, not overnight.

john · 05-29-2003, 05:25 PM

man, if you look through their past, Fabio Taglioni himself designed a 1000cc V4, and tried to make the Apollo. IT never made it past production, but even the man who started the famed Vtwin heritage was never limited to just twins.

Taglioni, BTW is the creator of ducatis desmodromic valvetrain.

But seriously, if you listen to ducati....RACING is their heritage, not a Vtwin. They should make a V4 to be TRUE to their heritage.

KPaulCook · 05-29-2003, 07:23 PM

I would absolutely buy one. Heck if they put lights on the beautiful MotoGP bike it would sell better than the ugly 999.

KPaulCook · 05-29-2003, 07:26 PM

As much as I love inline 4s, I think the V-4, because it is narrower may be the best racing configuration. I think Honda proved this a while go right longride??? Say good bye to the ugly 999 (the Edsel of sportbikes) hello to future.

john · 05-29-2003, 07:51 PM

shorter crank too, so less resistant to turning then you get with an inline 4. that is one of the reasons the FX bikes corner slower than the superbikes......crankshaft weight and inertia is a *****.

Buzglyd · 05-30-2003, 02:27 AM

Who styled the MotoGP bike? It certainly is a gorgeous piece of machinery.

longride · 05-30-2003, 02:35 AM

I think a v-6 or possibly even a v-8 would be the best racing configuration. You complain loudly about rules that give twins and advantage over fours, but you never have anything to say about rules giving fours an advantage over a 6 or and 8. Simply put, the Japanese are in love with fours because past and present rules favor that configuration. If the rules were open for the last 30 years, we would see v-6 and possibly v-8 configurations ruling racing.

drthompson65 · 05-30-2003, 04:00 AM

You need to change with the times or die. Everyone lives the 1000CC class and four cylnder motors. As a person who loves VTwins I don't expect Ducati to give up the twin but I believe you'll see a line of V4's. Personally can't wait for Honda to produce the V5. Maybe with this V4 craze Honda will bring back the RC45.

05-29-2003, 02:58 PM	#1
captainwhoopass Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,671	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike Undoubtedly the worst Photoshopped picture I have seen this year - it looks like they took the original racebike pictures, added in some fake sky and pavement, and digitally slapped a license plate/taillight (an ugly one at that) on it. It doesn't even have front turnsignals! On a related note, if they can make a V-4 streetbike that sells, more power to 'em. But it would be the biggest mistake they could make to abandon their own unique V-Twin heritage (IMHO). __________________ <blockquote> \"I knew it. I\'m surrounded by a$$holes.\" [b][i]Lord Helmet, Spaceballs

05-29-2003, 04:11 PM	#2
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike I agree. Harley's V-Rod isn't exactly flying out the doors of dealerships. Do you think even if Ducati made a 4 cylinder the KPauls of the world (godforbid there's more than one!) would buy one? __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

05-29-2003, 05:08 PM	#3
merv Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 170	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike Thing is its a bit like cheese - these things take time. Just remember what Ducati sold before they made twins - singles. Now who was saying then don't make a twin its abandoning the heritage blah blah blah. Likewise the first Hondas were singles. They seem to have done quite well out of bikes with more cylinders since. Remember 1969 and the first CB750. Who said damn its not a twin? I am sure if Ducati launched a four and it was a good machine it will sell, particularly if its faster than the twins. They might not sell them in large numbers straight away but they gain heritage through time, not overnight.

05-29-2003, 05:25 PM	#4
john Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 356	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike man, if you look through their past, Fabio Taglioni himself designed a 1000cc V4, and tried to make the Apollo. IT never made it past production, but even the man who started the famed Vtwin heritage was never limited to just twins. Taglioni, BTW is the creator of ducatis desmodromic valvetrain. But seriously, if you listen to ducati....RACING is their heritage, not a Vtwin. They should make a V4 to be TRUE to their heritage. __________________ You shouldnt wave at a guy with no hands, he might think you are **y. Look at what i got, mother**er.

05-29-2003, 07:23 PM	#5
KPaulCook Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,756	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike I would absolutely buy one. Heck if they put lights on the beautiful MotoGP bike it would sell better than the ugly 999.

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05-29-2003, 07:26 PM	#6
KPaulCook Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,756	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike As much as I love inline 4s, I think the V-4, because it is narrower may be the best racing configuration. I think Honda proved this a while go right longride??? Say good bye to the ugly 999 (the Edsel of sportbikes) hello to future.

05-29-2003, 07:51 PM	#7
john Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 356	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike shorter crank too, so less resistant to turning then you get with an inline 4. that is one of the reasons the FX bikes corner slower than the superbikes......crankshaft weight and inertia is a ***. __________________ You shouldnt wave at a guy with no hands, he might think you are y. Look at what i got, mother**er.

05-30-2003, 02:27 AM	#8
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike Who styled the MotoGP bike? It certainly is a gorgeous piece of machinery. __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

05-30-2003, 02:35 AM	#9
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike I think a v-6 or possibly even a v-8 would be the best racing configuration. You complain loudly about rules that give twins and advantage over fours, but you never have anything to say about rules giving fours an advantage over a 6 or and 8. Simply put, the Japanese are in love with fours because past and present rules favor that configuration. If the rules were open for the last 30 years, we would see v-6 and possibly v-8 configurations ruling racing. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

05-30-2003, 04:00 AM	#10
drthompson65 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brooklyn Park, MN Posts: 238	Re: Ducati V4 Streetbike You need to change with the times or die. Everyone lives the 1000CC class and four cylnder motors. As a person who loves VTwins I don't expect Ducati to give up the twin but I believe you'll see a line of V4's. Personally can't wait for Honda to produce the V5. Maybe with this V4 craze Honda will bring back the RC45. __________________ 2000 Honda CBR 929RR (Sold) 2002 Suzuki GSX-R1000 (Sold) 2003 Honda RC-51 (Sold) 2004 Ducati 999 Mono Yellow (Wrecked May 06) 2006 Ducati 999S Mono Black (Replaced Wife June 06) 1972-2000 A collection of mini, dirt, and road bikes to vast too list..