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Buzglyd · 01-13-2003, 02:41 PM

Just remember, you can prick your finger, but don't finger your prick............

v4bryan · 01-13-2003, 03:53 PM

Do you honestly think that there are "wacko environmentalists" serving ANYPLACE in the current administration? Do you think that the EPA under C.T. Whitman (and indirectly Gail Norton) doesn't do exactly what it's told to by the White House? Do you think it's possible that the same administration that O.K.ed not raising mileage requirements for SUV's, that O.K.ed returning the arsenic MCL to 50 ppm, and that made most of it's money in the oil, coal, and gas industry wouldn't "pretend" to care about the environment by taking a slap at the smallest motoring population on the roads today?

It's brilliant, really; this way they don't ***** off all the Detroit money that was spent on them, they don't cross any of their golfing buddies in the oil patch, and they can say they're taking a "tough line" on emissions in time for the next election. I yearn for the days of the Clinton administration; at least he was too busy trying to screw his interns to make the situation worse (like Bush).

KPaulCook · 01-13-2003, 06:30 PM

"If the gov't wants to clean the air, they should simply offer tax breaks and reduced tarrifs to all vehicles displacing 1600cc or less. "

You hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, the Bush administration (I voted for Bush ick)would call that social engineering. At least that is what the HOV (car pool) lane opponents say in Washington state. The positives of your approach far out weigh the negative.
[*] Cleaner air
[*] Less foreign oil consumption
[*] Less envy from the world

After living in Israel for short time, I wish we would do everthing in our power to reduce our dependance of middle eastern oil. Lots of folks say we get most of our oil from South America, Canada, etc . But the fact remains the Middle East is where most of world's oil resources are. Too me the political costs are too high i.e. supporting regimes, monarchies, that we would never support if they didn't have oil.

Also can somone tell me why gas is so much more in Canada? Which has more oil reserves than we do. Go to Vancouver B.C. and you will not see the epidemic of SUVs. I work with two Canadians who are amused with the U.S. consumer and how we are so willing to go to war about oil. If Iraq was in South America would we be going to war ?? I don't think so. Weapons of mass destruction good grief Pakistan has the bomb. You know that country where Osama may be hiding out.

TheFox · 01-13-2003, 08:41 PM

That's me who's leaving in 30 days, you clueless jackhole. Go ***** up a rope.

--The Fox

TheFox · 01-13-2003, 08:44 PM

Maybe if we keep this up he's go into cardiac arrest...have an aneurism...hell, even a sugar coma would make me happy.

--The Fox

TheFox · 01-13-2003, 08:47 PM

Bush/Cheney: Halliburton and other big oil.

Gore/Lieberman: Occidental Petroleum and other big oil.

Don't believe the hype. The Gore family made almost all thier money through Occidental Petroleum.

--The Fox

seruzawa · 01-14-2003, 03:27 AM

At ease, Colonel! Parade rest!

gooseman_1 · 01-14-2003, 03:59 AM

Almost all of Maine's pollution comes from states far to the south west. Whenever wind blows from these directions we get other people's crap (think coal-burning power plants).

MTBE did little to help our air quality. The city of North Windham had its water contaminated by MTBE. They spent millions creating a pipeline, which took years, meanwhile people had no safe water. Oh yeah, and the EPA didn't bother to pick up the tab for their huge blunder.

gooseman_1 · 01-14-2003, 04:08 AM

Here's a one word anwser to your question: WIND

01-13-2003, 02:41 PM	#51
Buzglyd Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10,137	Re: I'm a boomer? Just remember, you can prick your finger, but don't finger your prick............ __________________ Jay Leno: "President Obama released his tax returns. It turns out he made $900,000 less in 2011 than he did in 2010. You know what that means? Even Obama is doing worse under President Obama."

01-13-2003, 03:53 PM	#52
v4bryan Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 144	Thank the Bush administration Do you honestly think that there are "wacko environmentalists" serving ANYPLACE in the current administration? Do you think that the EPA under C.T. Whitman (and indirectly Gail Norton) doesn't do exactly what it's told to by the White House? Do you think it's possible that the same administration that O.K.ed not raising mileage requirements for SUV's, that O.K.ed returning the arsenic MCL to 50 ppm, and that made most of it's money in the oil, coal, and gas industry wouldn't "pretend" to care about the environment by taking a slap at the smallest motoring population on the roads today? It's brilliant, really; this way they don't ***** off all the Detroit money that was spent on them, they don't cross any of their golfing buddies in the oil patch, and they can say they're taking a "tough line" on emissions in time for the next election. I yearn for the days of the Clinton administration; at least he was too busy trying to screw his interns to make the situation worse (like Bush).

01-13-2003, 06:30 PM	#53
KPaulCook Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,756	America land of the selfish??? Talk to a Canadian? "If the gov't wants to clean the air, they should simply offer tax breaks and reduced tarrifs to all vehicles displacing 1600cc or less. " You hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, the Bush administration (I voted for Bush ick)would call that social engineering. At least that is what the HOV (car pool) lane opponents say in Washington state. The positives of your approach far out weigh the negative. [] Cleaner air [] Less foreign oil consumption [] Less envy from the world After living in Israel for short time, I wish we would do everthing in our power to reduce our dependance of middle eastern oil. Lots of folks say we get most of our oil from South America, Canada, etc . But the fact remains the Middle East is where most of world's oil resources are. Too me the political costs are too high i.e. supporting regimes, monarchies, that we would never support if they didn't have oil. Also can somone tell me why gas is so much more in Canada? Which has more oil reserves than we do. Go to Vancouver B.C. and you will not see the epidemic of SUVs. I work with two Canadians who are amused with the U.S. consumer and how we are so willing to go to war about oil. If Iraq was in South America would we be going to war ?? I don't think so. Weapons of mass destruction good grief Pakistan has the bomb. You know that country where Osama may be hiding out.*

01-13-2003, 08:41 PM	#54
TheFox Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 730	Re: Warning That's me who's leaving in 30 days, you clueless jackhole. Go ***** up a rope. --The Fox __________________ --The Fox The best bike to take a trip on is the one you have.

01-13-2003, 08:44 PM	#55
TheFox Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 730	Is KPaul a boomer? No, just clueless. Maybe if we keep this up he's go into cardiac arrest...have an aneurism...hell, even a sugar coma would make me happy. --The Fox __________________ --The Fox The best bike to take a trip on is the one you have.

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01-13-2003, 08:47 PM	#56
TheFox Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 730	Politicans are mostly the same no mater what they say. Bush/Cheney: Halliburton and other big oil. Gore/Lieberman: Occidental Petroleum and other big oil. Don't believe the hype. The Gore family made almost all thier money through Occidental Petroleum. --The Fox __________________ --The Fox The best bike to take a trip on is the one you have.

01-14-2003, 03:27 AM	#57
seruzawa Robby Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 16,803	Re: I'm a boomer? At ease, Colonel! Parade rest! __________________ I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.

01-14-2003, 03:59 AM	#58
gooseman_1 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 162	Re: Lots of Green for Clean Almost all of Maine's pollution comes from states far to the south west. Whenever wind blows from these directions we get other people's crap (think coal-burning power plants). MTBE did little to help our air quality. The city of North Windham had its water contaminated by MTBE. They spent millions creating a pipeline, which took years, meanwhile people had no safe water. Oh yeah, and the EPA didn't bother to pick up the tab for their huge blunder.

01-14-2003, 04:08 AM	#59
gooseman_1 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 162	Re: Lots of Green for Clean Here's a one word anwser to your question: WIND