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Old 11-28-2002, 05:56 PM   #11
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As a police officer, I see this kind of thing all the time in court. America does not care about victims. Get it out of your head that we do. We care about the rights of the accused murderers, rapists, assaulters, robbers, and abusers that we call neighbor. This is just another story of how a "wrongfully accused" man is punished for a crime of which he was found guilty.



FYI: guilty beyond a reasonable doubt means that approximately 98% of the population believes that you are guilty of a crime. The 2% (who apparently are in power) want to protect the guilty's rights.



This whole deal stinks.
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Old 11-29-2002, 03:16 AM   #12
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Really? Who else but a "too-liberal" judge would give a person convicted of second degree murder nine effing months? That's what I was commenting on. That and the freaking psychobabblers who infest the judicial system and make all sorts of excuses for criminal conduct.



If you want to turn it into a general indictment of libs, then fine with me.

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Old 11-29-2002, 04:35 AM   #13
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"If you want to turn it into a general indictment of libs, then fine with me."



He doesn't have to, you already did. I don't know or care what political party affiliation you have or if you are left, right or center. What I do know is you are a narrow and simple minded person trying to address a complex issue in a moronic way.



Try to think outside the box you've put yourself in. Its called tolerance.
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Old 11-29-2002, 05:40 AM   #14
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Default talk about large egos

So talking about someone's death is inappropriate? We can not discuss anybody's death? Or this is a special case because it was YOUR brother?



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Old 11-29-2002, 06:34 AM   #15
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We had a sex offender(child rapist) move in the neighborhood. He was registered but the police were not required to inform the public because he was downgraded a level due to a legal foul up. I found out that he was a sex offender and told my wife who told my neighbors. Some neighbors were grateful others wan't us to keep quiet about it (property values etc.). Here is the really interesting point: The sex offenders wife took my wife to court for an antiharrassment order. Fourtunately, we ran into one of the few conservative judges left in Seattle. The judge throw out the case citing the constitution and Megan's law. She scolded the plaintiff that perhaps her husband should of thought of the consequences before he raped the two little girls. But some neighbors were sympathetic, especially the Canadian folks.. Incredible.
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Old 11-29-2002, 06:38 AM   #16
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I agree with you. This is why I will always be a Republican even though I don't agree with the party on things like school prayer i.e. I believe in seperation of church and state. Liberal suck when it comes to crime
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Old 11-29-2002, 10:17 AM   #17
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Politically I believe in freedom. A concept which is unimportant in both major parties, no matter their lip service to it.



Get a good dictionary. Look up the word "liberal". Look at the definitions without the capital "L".



Webster's def #5. "Tolerant of the ideas or behavior of others." This is quite different than def #3 "Liberal", which is capitalized and is a political label.



A too-liberal judge is one who is too tolerant of the behavior of others. Letting a murderer free after only 9 months is too liberal. An excessively liberal judge is simply one who excuses criminal behavior. The ones who are all concerned about whether the perp had a bad childhood or just ran out of twinkies. Their Party affiliation is unimportant. Regardless of political leanings it takes an especially stupid or criminally inclined person to not see the long term costs to society of letting people walk away virtually scot free after committing seriously violent acts.



It is judges like these who accept lousy excuses like "I didn't see the motorcycle". These judges have been instrumental in creating an environment where cagers can kill bikers with impunity. I wonder why you defend such an egregious situation.



Try dealing with your own semi-literacy before starting with the accusations of 'simpleminded' or 'moronic'.
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Old 11-29-2002, 12:10 PM   #18
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According to an artical in the News Tribune a few days ago, the rate of sex offenders repeating their crimes after being in jail/treatment was actually about 20%, though the publics perception is that the rate is around 90%, I guess I wouldn't want them living around me either, but the perception vs. the reality is interesting, I must say though, If I saw a "reformed" offender near my daughters, he wouldn't be walking away in one piece. when it comes to my girls, there is no "second chance"
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Old 11-29-2002, 04:55 PM   #19
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We were just informing other parents of his record. Most folks were grateful but a few thought we shoudn't be talking about it. Even though his crime, conviction, and sentence is public record. His wife's attitude was interesting she thought we didn't have a right to inform others. She actually wan't the police to arrest my wife arrested for distributing flyers made by the King Co sherriffs dept. It was really amazing to see our Canadian neighbors defend her actions.

There attitude changed of course when they had a little girl. 20% is still to much of chance for me.
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Old 11-29-2002, 08:11 PM   #20
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O.K., this is a nethercrat's viewpoint. Liberals care about the accused and want to see their rights protected. I think I would like my own rights protected if I were accused of a heinous crime. They also tend to be biased to a socialist environment. (Read between the lines of the Democratic party's manifesto and show some intelligence when you do so.)



Conversely, conservatives would rather see justice in terms of a punishment dealt more severely and with fewer loopholes to allow a truly guilty person to walk free. Reactionaries among this bunch believe in survival of the fittest. Defend yourself or starve. (See above non-PC statement about the Democratic party and now apply it to the Republican party.)



If any of this offends you, grow up and accept your shortcomings.
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